Bale to consider future

[Seosa]

What a signing he would be, he can also cover left back which means we could let kolarov go.

No no no, I'd rather we introduce Rekik as back-up Left Back to Gael as part of his development or use Zabs there if need be, Bale should be used specifically as an attacking weapon, should he sign of course.

-- Sat May 05, 2012 5:53 pm --

Maicon can't defend to save his life, he's about as good a defender as Bale. Anyway, we all have our opinions, and obviously a lot rate Bale, I personally don't. I think he had a deccent half season last year, but disapeared again for large parts of any game I have seen him play in this season. He has made a name for himself on the back of a couple of games against Inter.

Please you're getting ridiculous now. Maicon was a brilliant all-round defender prior to those games, he had power, pace, good attacking and defensive abilities but he's never been the same since Caesar tore him to shreds. As I've said previously £25m + 'Bayor and AJ and I'd be happy.

IMO, your valuation of Bale is what is ridiculous.

So who would you rather sign, fucking Hoilett? Hazard and Bale for me would an immense double-signing. Oh, and immense one liner there to back up your argument....

 

[Barcon]

What a signing he would be, he can also cover left back which means we could let kolarov go.

No no no, I'd rather we introduce Rekik as back-up Left Back to Gael as part of his development or use Zabs there if need be, Bale should be used specifically as an attacking weapon, should he sign of course.

-- Sat May 05, 2012 5:53 pm --

Please you're getting ridiculous now. Maicon was a brilliant all-round defender prior to those games, he had power, pace, good attacking and defensive abilities but he's never been the same since Caesar tore him to shreds. As I've said previously £25m + 'Bayor and AJ and I'd be happy.

IMO, your valuation of Bale is what is ridiculous.

So who would you rather sign, fucking Hoilett? Hazard and Bale for me would an immense double-signing. Oh, and immense one liner there to back up your argument....

Not interested in an argument, wasn't aware we were having one actually. I agree on Hazard, and might take Bale, but only if he was valued under 25 mil. I just think that valuing him at around 50 mil is around twice as much as he is worth. I'm not sure where Hoiletts name is coming from (because I'm in Ontario?), but no, not for me.

 

[Kompany is King]

Bale would give us pace on the wings which we currently do not have.

He may not be the best defender but that it not why Mancini would be buying him. He would give us more variety for attack. His pace and attacking play would give the opposition even more to worry about.

If we can move Adebayor as part of the deal I would be happy with that. If Johnson has to go too I can live with it. Johnson has not proved himself sufficiently to Mancini or he would have got more starts.

Dealing with Levy will be difficult but if the player wants to come to City then there is a good chance it will happen.

 

[stony]

Any Spurs players moving this season will have an added FA tax on their price tag.
Levy will want to make up the millions in compo he was banking on when 'arry was made England manager.
Didn't that happen ?............oops!

 

[CTIDANDREW]

I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe anyone that is saying no to Bale is mental. I mean this is a man playing at outside left position and has 9 goals this year along with countless assists. He's 22(only going to get better!!!!) and can count as a homegrown player. He works his butt off, which will help in our pressing defensive set up. I mean we have paid 25m for Adey and we have paid 23-25m for Nasri. I dont see how it is unfair at all for Levy to ask for 40m, its the way football transfers work today. I mean Torres was 50m(and yes I get it striker). I personally wouldn't pay anything more then say 32m, but can see why if we want him he wont be worth any less then 40m.

 

[Goo]

I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe anyone that is saying no to Bale is mental. I mean this is a man playing at outside left position and has 9 goals this year along with countless assists. He's 22(only going to get better!!!!) and can count as a homegrown player. He works his butt off, which will help in our pressing defensive set up. I mean we have paid 25m for Adey and we have paid 23-25m for Nasri. I dont see how it is unfair at all for Levy to ask for 40m, its the way football transfers work today. I mean Torres was 50m(and yes I get it striker). I personally wouldn't pay anything more then say 32m, but can see why if we want him he wont be worth any less then 40m.

No offense taken, your opinion which you're entitled to.

The problem I have with buying Bale (ignoring the price tag) is that he's very linear. I pointed out in another thread that our attacking four is so fluid because every player in attack can play in different positions when required. For instance if Aguero drops deep, Tevez will push higher up, or if Nasri roams left Silva will go central/right. Versatility is something Mancini loves (Yaya playing advanced/Zab playing both full back positions/ Micah playing CB etc)

I totally agree with you that Bale is one of the best left wingers the premier league has seen for some time, but he just won't fit our style. He suits Spurs play of 2 wingers and (usually) 2 strikers. This is also how the scum play.

Hazard or Lavezzi are more likely to join City for this reason. Hazard can play as winger/play maker, and score goals and there fore a more reasonable buy.

Hazard is also less likely to cost us an arm and a leg (well, less than Bale anyway), although getting Ade off the pay roll would be a huge bonus if he was included in the Bale deal.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe anyone that is saying no to Bale is mental. I mean this is a man playing at outside left position and has 9 goals this year along with countless assists. He's 22(only going to get better!!!!) and can count as a homegrown player. He works his butt off, which will help in our pressing defensive set up. I mean we have paid 25m for Adey and we have paid 23-25m for Nasri. I dont see how it is unfair at all for Levy to ask for 40m, its the way football transfers work today. I mean Torres was 50m(and yes I get it striker). I personally wouldn't pay anything more then say 32m, but can see why if we want him he wont be worth any less then 40m.

No offense taken, your opinion which you're entitled to.

The problem I have with buying Bale (ignoring the price tag) is that he's very linear. I pointed out in another thread that our attacking four is so fluid because every player in attack can play in different positions when required. For instance if Aguero drops deep, Tevez will push higher up, or if Nasri roams left Silva will go central/right. Versatility is something Mancini loves (Yaya playing advanced/Zab playing both full back positions/ Micah playing CB etc)

I totally agree with you that Bale is one of the best left wingers the premier league has seen for some time, but he just won't fit our style. He suits Spurs play of 2 wingers and (usually) 2 strikers. This is also how the scum play.

Hazard or Lavezzi are more likely to join City for this reason. Hazard can play as winger/play maker, and score goals and there fore a more reasonable buy.

Hazard is also less likely to cost us an arm and a leg (well, less than Bale anyway), although getting Ade off the pay roll would be a huge bonus if he was included in the Bale deal.

I agree fully. But IMO every summer transfer period should be about improving weaknesses. I dont think its any secret that this year are biggest weakness was width. We saw it in numerous games where we just didn't have a plan B. Bale would single-handley be that plan b. Also, Im not convinced that Bale cant play within the four attacking group that are offensive runs if called upon. I just dont see why Mancini would go out and spend huge on Dzeko and Ballotelli if he wasnt going to bring in a Bale type player. Lavezzi would be ideal but it seems much much more unlikely he would come here than Bale. If we want to continue to build with the Barca model then sure we should go all out attack to get Hazard, and Martinez as that would fit like a glove. But, I think a smart man such as Mancini sees where the team went wrong this season, and knows he needs a player like Bale to change the attack within games.

 

[LoveCity]

Lavezzi would be ideal but it seems much much more unlikely he would come here than Bale.

Why? He wants to leave Napoli and has a £26million buy-out clause.

Lavezzi at £26million is much better value than Bale at £40million.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Lavezzi would be ideal but it seems much much more unlikely he would come here than Bale.

Why? He wants to leave Napoli and has a £26million buy-out clause.

Lavezzi at £26million is much better value than Bale at £40million.

I've seen him linked with Inter Milan, PSG, and Chelsea in the past few days

I could see us persuading him away from one of those, but all three can guarantee some things we cant. I like our odds ALOT more with Bale.

 

[Goo]

Lavezzi would be ideal but it seems much much more unlikely he would come here than Bale.

Why? He wants to leave Napoli and has a £26million buy-out clause.

Lavezzi at £26million is much better value than Bale at £40million.

I agree. Price and what you get I'd rather have Lavezzi. However it's worth noting on Lavezzi that he's 27! I didn't realise he was that old. It's not terrible age don't get me wrong, but it's worth thinking about in the market.

I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, but I believe anyone that is saying no to Bale is mental. I mean this is a man playing at outside left position and has 9 goals this year along with countless assists. He's 22(only going to get better!!!!) and can count as a homegrown player. He works his butt off, which will help in our pressing defensive set up. I mean we have paid 25m for Adey and we have paid 23-25m for Nasri. I dont see how it is unfair at all for Levy to ask for 40m, its the way football transfers work today. I mean Torres was 50m(and yes I get it striker). I personally wouldn't pay anything more then say 32m, but can see why if we want him he wont be worth any less then 40m.

No offense taken, your opinion which you're entitled to.

The problem I have with buying Bale (ignoring the price tag) is that he's very linear. I pointed out in another thread that our attacking four is so fluid because every player in attack can play in different positions when required. For instance if Aguero drops deep, Tevez will push higher up, or if Nasri roams left Silva will go central/right. Versatility is something Mancini loves (Yaya playing advanced/Zab playing both full back positions/ Micah playing CB etc)

I totally agree with you that Bale is one of the best left wingers the premier league has seen for some time, but he just won't fit our style. He suits Spurs play of 2 wingers and (usually) 2 strikers. This is also how the scum play.

Hazard or Lavezzi are more likely to join City for this reason. Hazard can play as winger/play maker, and score goals and there fore a more reasonable buy.

Hazard is also less likely to cost us an arm and a leg (well, less than Bale anyway), although getting Ade off the pay roll would be a huge bonus if he was included in the Bale deal.

I agree fully. But IMO every summer transfer period should be about improving weaknesses. I dont think its any secret that this year are biggest weakness was width. We saw it in numerous games where we just didn't have a plan B. Bale would single-handley be that plan b. Also, Im not convinced that Bale cant play within the four attacking group that are offensive runs if called upon. I just dont see why Mancini would go out and spend huge on Dzeko and Ballotelli if he wasnt going to bring in a Bale type player. Lavezzi would be ideal but it seems much much more unlikely he would come here than Bale. If we want to continue to build with the Barca model then sure we should go all out attack to get Hazard, and Martinez as that would fit like a glove. But, I think a smart man such as Mancini sees where the team went wrong this season, and knows he needs a player like Bale to change the attack within games.

I don't see why we should spend 40 million on a Plan B thought. When people talk about width throughout the season it's been a case of being at 70 minutes and our Plan A hasn't worked. I can't see Bale being happy with sitting on the bench until our Plan A doesn't work. Remember, the need for plan B was only noticed in January, and since March has pretty much been forgotten. Dzeko was playing fine without "width" or out and out wingers until January. I think the width argument is to much of an easy excuse in my opinion.

Having said that, I believe Hazard offers width, yet can still play to our normal attacking style.

When you say we need a Plan B, I don't think a new player is the answer, I think it's being able to get the players to act differently when given the instruction from the touch line. Hazard can do what we're doing at the moment AND can add what Bale would add.

Hazard is also young and cheaper. The only negative for Hazard is the homegrown rule, and I wouldn't worry about that