Balotelli (continued - bust up with Mancini pg 18)

[adrianr]

Simply cannot be arsed reading 100 pages of shite and bitching - have I missed anything at all, and have any facts been established as yet?

Ta

If I told you that was the funniest post of the thread so far would that help at all?

 

[Holcombe bloo]

Simply cannot be arsed reading 100 pages of shite and bitching - have I missed anything at all, and have any facts been established as yet?

Ta

Barm!

 

[peoffrey]

This x1000. I swear he could be in bed with someone's Mrs and they'd tuck him in.

dumb & dumber ^^^^^

^^^^ this x100,000

Good one R... I like.

I like him too. He always lets on when he sees me at the match.

Do I really have to explain what I was exaggerating the point for humour? I know some regulars (home, away, Europe) who won't acknowledge Tevez as a City player because of Munich. It doesn't matter what he does because they don't accept him anymore. Balotelli is like a reverse of this situation because some feel he can do no wrong. I began to suspect he wasn't right in the head when reports of his behaviour in Manchester began to circulate.

 

[thedogsbollocks]

Because it is a totally different environment. What constitutes acceptable behaviour in one environment may not be considered acceptable in another.

I've worked in an office where telling someone to lift their flicking game in front of everyone would cause a shitstorm. But that sort of language is acceptable in every football dressing room in the country.

Being a Professional Football Player is no different from any other job.You have your work place, a manager who you are accountable to.A Union, and a shop steward.Football players have the same employment rights.

Like it or not Roberto Mancini attacking Mario Balotelli today is a serious offense,he has basically assaulted him in the work place.

Roberto could be instantly dismissed for gross misconduct and would not have to be compensated either.

Roberto has left himself wide open to all courses of action from his employer and Gordon Taylor from the PFU.

I love Roberto but what he did today was dumb.There might be serious ramifications unless we placate Balotelli and his agent immediately,by cutting our losses and making his move where ever beneficial to both party's

If football is the same as any other workplace how come fellaini wasn't sacked and prosecuted when he headbutted someone from a rival company?

I am only a bit clued up on work place law mate being an x -Unison rep.

Fellaini head butting some one is criminal law.

If Mario had gone to the odd lot today he could have tried to have Roberto done for common assault. like i said though there are employment laws that protect employees from bosses, managers man handling them in the work place.In my experience any employee proving they were assaulted by a supervisor,manager etc would result in instant dismissal for the perpetrator.no verbal or formal warning it is an instantly sackable offence.A big big no no laying your hands on anyone in the workplace.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

So in what employment is it OK for a manager to man handle an employee in a disagreement and get away with it?

In what other employment would you not be sacked if you headbutted someone from a rival company in front of 20,000 people? (fellaini).
Whether it's right or wrong football is different. Could argue the toss but simple fact of the matter is it just is different.

I think some people are missing my point, the Fellaini incident is a good example but it was still dealt with by the powers that be (the FA) who issued the ban.

I'm not saying the incident today is a sackable offence for either party but if people think there going to go unpunished then they're very naive.

Whilst at the training ground or any other part of the club this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated like any other place of work.

Your last sentence is incorrect.

Sport involves a degree of physical contact that exceeds most other workplaces. As I posted earlier it is essentially assault by consent -with limits, obviously.

Any workplace is going to be subject to rules of behaviour that arise out of its own circumstances. These will often be governed by actual rules, but also custom and practice.

It will absolutely be the case that low level skirmishes such as this will much more likely form an acceptable part of the expected (and therefore acceptable) part of the working practices than in, say, a launderette and any attempt to terminate a contract (or take disciplinary action) on the basis of saying that 'people wouldn't get away with that in a launderette' would be bound to fail.

To suggest the sames rules should or do apply to different workplaces is absurd.

 

[80s Shorts]

So in what employment is it OK for a manager to man handle an employee in a disagreement and get away with it?

In what other employment would you not be sacked if you headbutted someone from a rival company in front of 20,000 people? (fellaini).
Whether it's right or wrong football is different. Could argue the toss but simple fact of the matter is it just is different.

I think some people are missing my point, the Fellaini incident is a good example but it was still dealt with by the powers that be (the FA) who issued the ban.

I'm not saying the incident today is a sackable offence for either party but if people think there going to go unpunished then they're very naive.

Whilst at the training ground or any other part of the club this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated like any other place of work.

Everton are his employers and not the FA. Your point is moot. His employers obviously did not deem his headbutting somebody as a sackable offence. So in answer to your original question Everton seemingly do not appear to think that headbutting whilst carrying out your contractual obligations is a sackable offence. Therefore football is different to working in an office.

 

[Ed2607]

Considering what Pulis said after the match on Saturday he actually stuck up for City and Bobby today saying that this sort of things happens everywhere and some players need handled like this.
Curbishly is and always has been an anti-city knob head. Twat!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Simply cannot be arsed reading 100 pages of shite and bitching - have I missed anything at all, and have any facts been established as yet?

Ta

me and lavinda have come to the same conclusion peoffrey talking shite :)

Can't see anything wrong with what poefrey is saying. He's just got a little pack of hyenas nipping at him for daring to criticise one of the two bluemoon poster boys, and he seems to be dealing with them pretty comfortably.

 

[moomba]

Being a Professional Football Player is no different from any other job.You have your work place, a manager who you are accountable to.A Union, and a shop steward.Football players have the same employment rights.

Like it or not Roberto Mancini attacking Mario Balotelli today is a serious offense,he has basically assaulted him in the work place.

Roberto could be instantly dismissed for gross misconduct and would not have to be compensated either.

Roberto has left himself wide open to all courses of action from his employer and Gordon Taylor from the PFU.

I love Roberto but what he did today was dumb.There might be serious ramifications unless we placate Balotelli and his agent immediately,by cutting our losses and making his move where ever beneficial to both party's

If football is the same as any other workplace how come fellaini wasn't sacked and prosecuted when he headbutted someone from a rival company?

I am only a bit clued up on work place law mate being an x -Unison rep.

Fellaini head butting some one is criminal law.

If Mario had gone to the odd lot today he could have tried to have Roberto done for common assault. like i said though there are employment laws that protect employees from bosses, managers man handling them in the work place.In my experience any employee proving they were assaulted by a supervisor,manager etc would result in instant dismissal for the perpetrator.no verbal or formal warning it is an instantly sackable offence.A big big no no laying your hands on anyone in the workplace.

Big stinky pile of bollocks.

 

[KIPPAXDAYS]

Agreed many will comment but still bites when fools list clubs like Chelsea as being the bastion of good behaviour.