Balotelli (continued - bust up with Mancini pg 18)

[80s Shorts]

Still no ones been able to give me an example of a fight being photographed between a player and his manager. It is a big deal actually.

That's what I'm waiting for too. Lots of rhetoric and arguing around a point but no direct answer.

Well lets have an example of a "fight" between our Bobby and Mario then.

It was a spat. Do you two really call that a fight ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If football is the same as any other workplace how come fellaini wasn't sacked and prosecuted when he headbutted someone from a rival company?

I am only a bit clued up on work place law mate being an x -Unison rep.

Fellaini head butting some one is criminal law.

If Mario had gone to the odd lot today he could have tried to have Roberto done for common assault. like i said though there are employment laws that protect employees from bosses, managers man handling them in the work place.In my experience any employee proving they were assaulted by a supervisor,manager etc would result in instant dismissal for the perpetrator.no verbal or formal warning it is an instantly sackable offence.A big big no no laying your hands on anyone in the workplace.

Although it is over the top for this instance, you're 100% correct to the letter of the law and the evidence is there to prove it.

He is 100% incorrect to the letter of the law.

The fact that it occurred in a sporting context renders this situation to be anything other than a clear case of common assault.

Also what evidence? How do you know Mancini wasn't acting in self-defence?

 

[Bluemoon115]

its all good, they are like father and son right. Mabye just mabye our team can get past this without having a massive media paranoia session, oh wait our fans are............old

Yup, let's turn yet another blind eye.

 

[sir baconface]

Can't keep up with this. Trying to do a bit of admin at the same time and whenever I return there's another 10 pages!

 

[thedogsbollocks]

In what other employment would you not be sacked if you headbutted someone from a rival company in front of 20,000 people? (fellaini).
Whether it's right or wrong football is different. Could argue the toss but simple fact of the matter is it just is different.

I think some people are missing my point, the Fellaini incident is a good example but it was still dealt with by the powers that be (the FA) who issued the ban.

I'm not saying the incident today is a sackable offence for either party but if people think there going to go unpunished then they're very naive.

Whilst at the training ground or any other part of the club this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated like any other place of work.

Your last sentence is incorrect.

Sport involves a degree of physical contact that exceeds most other workplaces. As I posted earlier it is essentially assault by consent -with limits, obviously.

Any workplace is going to be subject to rules of behaviour that arise out of its own circumstances. These will often be governed by actual rules, but also custom and practice.

It will absolutely be the case that low level skirmishes such as this will much more likely form an acceptable part of the expected (and therefore acceptable) part of the working practices than in, say, a launderette and any attempt to terminate a contract (or take disciplinary action) on the basis of saying that 'people wouldn't get away with that in a launderette' would be bound to fail.

To suggest the sames rules should or do apply to different workplaces is absurd.

If your boss run at you in the office and tried to throw you to the floor in front of all the other staff would you find it acceptable ?, your boss has to be physically restrained from manhandling you,would you feel safe working in that environment again ?

Assault in the street is no different to assault in the workplace.One will usually send you to prison the other get you instant dismissal .Just putting your hand on some one is common assault.

My personal opinion is Balotelli is a cnut,the sooner he is gone the better.Hopefully this will all blow over with us saying arrivederci to Balotelli and us going on to win the title with Roberto.But he needs to control himself in future.

 

[Blueband Brother]

FANS FOR BALOTELLI!!!!

WHERE ARE YOU!!!
LETS BE HAVING YOU!!!
(cant remember the rest)

But, Its time for everybody especially fans to open their eyes and see what is actually going on. Many fans in this forum as i have observed for the past year or so have given in to this widespread irrational and unfair hatred and intolerance directed towards balotelli.

The guy have a lot of flaws we all know that but please lets open our eyes. I will start with this current incident,
Balotelli mistimes a tackle- he is useless, lazy, destroying the team spirit, he has blown his lat chance etc.
I think its time for everybody to become honest. The guy is young, this animorsity towards him is just sad and unwarranted. The misunderstanding is even more tragedic.

I PROPOSE A 'MANCHESTER CITY FAN CLUB PROTECT BALLOTELLI CAMPAIGN AND MATCH'

IS ANYBODY WITH ME!!

Come on mario get a hat trick on Saturday imwt

hell ya!!, now thats the spirit!!
(but there is a serious underlying issue here though)

 

[Neville Kneville]

I am only a bit clued up on work place law mate being an x -Unison rep.

Fellaini head butting some one is criminal law.

If Mario had gone to the odd lot today he could have tried to have Roberto done for common assault. like i said though there are employment laws that protect employees from bosses, managers man handling them in the work place.In my experience any employee proving they were assaulted by a supervisor,manager etc would result in instant dismissal for the perpetrator.no verbal or formal warning it is an instantly sackable offence.A big big no no laying your hands on anyone in the workplace.

Although it is over the top for this instance, you're 100% correct to the letter of the law and the evidence is there to prove it.

He is 100% incorrect to the letter of the law.

The fact that it occurred in a sporting context renders this situation to be anything other than a clear case of common assault.

Also what evidence? How do you know Mancini wasn't acting in self-defence?

The evidence of all the people who saw it I should imagine.

No way is this acceptable behaviour by Mancini. It may not cost him is job but it will certainly not go unnoticed at the top level.

 

[Oohvonkyvonky]

Still no ones been able to give me an example of a fight being photographed between a player and his manager. It is a big deal actually.

That's what I'm waiting for too. Lots of rhetoric and arguing around a point but no direct answer.

There you go chaps... Surprisingly an Italian

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[mancity1]

Slow news day?

Going to be up to 46 degrees today here in oz.

Now that's what I call hot.

 

[mcfcphil]

Mancini woah, mancini woah!
He comes from italy, to fight with balotelli
Mancini woah!