Balotelli (continued)

Summerbuzz said:
I can understand the point, but everyone's problems are different.

Dzeko experienced hardship, and a very real threat. Fear and terror. But from a psychological point of view I would say there is precious little difference between real and imagined threat. Consider that Dzeko's fears and hardships were exactly the same as everyone around him. If anything this made it easier for him to identify with others. Mario was suffering in a different way, and crucially, on his own. Even if he explains to others what his fears and feelings were - no-one could actually say "I went through that too".

Dzeko feared his body being blown to pieces. Mario probably feared the disintegration of his identity - which was made unstable by his parents voluntarily abandoning him, and placed under further stress by him being very obviously 'different' from those around him.

Commonly, the first line of defence of someone suffering in this way is to hide it all behind a brittle facade of confidence. Exaggerating and revelling in his 'difference' is a pretty brave thing for a young man to do - it's almost a neccessity for someone who realised that no one else was quite like him, he has to define himself. This is fraught with problems. Reality, the middle ground, is consensus. We normalise by seeing ourselves through the eyes of others. In Dzeko's case, he sees he is the same as his countrymen, his father, brother. Mario... he wasn't the same. Already made unstable by virtue of his parents giving him away, now he tries to identify with others and fine tune himself.... and the feedback is wild, all over the place. My guess is that unfortunately it has led to longer term problems when it comes to identifying his role and appropriate behaviour - and admitting a problem involves unwinding a position that he adopted a long time ago, to keep himself safe, and strong.

Good post. Detailed and informative, looks like it's something you know few things about.

However, as I said earlier I feel with him as I had lot of abuse and insecure feelings being on the wrong side of hostile majority as a kid and young teenager myself but I don't really see why it should be any excuse for Balotelli or anyone else.

Football club is very expensive toy and if you can't deal with it, well, sorry mate..
 
In my opinion, I don't get how we can be arguing who had it worse, their experiences are purely subjective and the effects unique. It's not really for us to say who had the worst time of it. Both players deserve our admiration for overcoming these circumstances and the generosity and dedication they put back in through charity work.
 
MSP said:
Plus one of my best friends is Bosnian snipers never attacked children nor would Eagles have been a target.

53 Sarajevo kids were killed by snipers. STFU.

Most children in the war died from Serb rocket attacks and dont tell me to STFU keep the discussion civil. I am repeating what my friend told me and her father served in the army. Why is this even becoming a debate about war? LIke I said mentioning one persons suffering does not negate that of another. It is all different.
 
didactic said:
MSP said:
Plus one of my best friends is Bosnian snipers never attacked children nor would Eagles have been a target.

53 Sarajevo kids were killed by snipers. STFU.

Most children in the war died from Serb rocket attacks and dont tell me to STFU keep the discussion civil. I am repeating what my friend told me and her father served in the army. Why is this even becoming a debate about war? LIke I said mentioning one persons suffering does not negate that of another. It is all different.

You have said that no kids, including eagle were targeted by snipers. 1600 kids have died in Sarajevo, 53 of them were killed by snipers. Based on some researches, around 40% of 80 000 Sarajevo kids were targeted by snipers at some time.

SO yes, STFU if you don't know what you are talking about.

No, it shouldn't be debate about war, I agree. However, I find Dzeko's childhood as a good argument against those that try to excuse all Balotelli's antics with his childhood. It's not completely same stuff but difference in professionalism between these two is staggering.
 
MSP said:
didactic said:
MSP said:
53 Sarajevo kids were killed by snipers. STFU.

Most children in the war died from Serb rocket attacks and dont tell me to STFU keep the discussion civil. I am repeating what my friend told me and her father served in the army. Why is this even becoming a debate about war? LIke I said mentioning one persons suffering does not negate that of another. It is all different.

You have said that no kids, including eagle were targeted by snipers. 1600 kids have died in Sarajevo, 53 of them were killed by snipers. Based on some researches, around 40% of 80 000 Sarajevo kids were targeted by snipers at some time.

SO yes, STFU if you don't know what you are talking about.

No, it shouldn't be debate about war, I agree. However, I find Dzeko's childhood as a good argument against those that try to excuse all Balotelli's antics with his childhood. It's not completely same stuff but difference in professionalism between these two is staggering.

You are a clown and not even worth debating with. Keep swearing to yourself and I am repeating what I heard from someone who was there. I wont get into a debate about war on a football forum.

This is a Balotelli thread bringing war stories in here to try and compare peoples lives is stupid as everyone has a different experience. Do not bother responding as I am simply going to ignore your clown ass from now.
 
didactic said:
MSP said:
didactic said:
Most children in the war died from Serb rocket attacks and dont tell me to STFU keep the discussion civil. I am repeating what my friend told me and her father served in the army. Why is this even becoming a debate about war? LIke I said mentioning one persons suffering does not negate that of another. It is all different.

You have said that no kids, including eagle were targeted by snipers. 1600 kids have died in Sarajevo, 53 of them were killed by snipers. Based on some researches, around 40% of 80 000 Sarajevo kids were targeted by snipers at some time.

SO yes, STFU if you don't know what you are talking about.

No, it shouldn't be debate about war, I agree. However, I find Dzeko's childhood as a good argument against those that try to excuse all Balotelli's antics with his childhood. It's not completely same stuff but difference in professionalism between these two is staggering.

You are a clown and not even worth debating with. Keep swearing to yourself and I am repeating what I heard from someone who was there. I wont get into a debate about war on a football forum.

This is a Balotelli thread bringing war stories in here to try and compare peoples lives is stupid as everyone has a different experience. Do not bother responding as I am simply going to ignore your clown ass from now.

Didactic, mate - I dont know who told you what, but I WAS THERE so dont need anyone to tell me the "facts". I LIVED the facts for 4 years. Unfortunately. Between age 11 through 14 I was a sniper target probably a dozen times (that I can recall).

Yes everyone has their own troubles. But when talking about Mario things should be put in perspective:
-Plays for the one of the top clubs in the world
-Gets paid what, 100,000 a week?
-Acts like a little b*tch "wah-wah, my childhood was tough, fuck the world"

C'mon man - I'm not even saying his childhood was "roses", nor I think he is a bad person, but you gotta put things in fucking perspective. And he is failing at that, big time. Which to me just makes him spoiled and unappreciative.
 
History of the Balkans Wars rewritten in attempt to prove Mario Balotelli is 'well sick' shocker
 
Fucking hell, diversion number 5492 of this thread. Seriously, have a word with yourselves, this argument has gotten even more hideous than it was before.
 

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