Balotelli

[TCIB]

MSP is indeed our defence against the hoards of his fellow countrymen ready to kill if you put your finger even close to the "D" button :p

You do realise Billy you and i are having a reasoned non aggresive sensible chat on bluemoon !

We should screencap this as proof it does happen the odd time hehe.

 

[Anonymous]

What do you think to the idea of a loan to a well managed club like Sunderland or Fulham for a few months ?.

With the best will in the world mate, I think you've been smoking crack if you think that's a decent suggestion. :) (jokes!) I bet you my life's savings that if we put Mario on the market this summer every single top club the world over, from Barcelona to AC Milan and in between would be queueing up for his services. Just as if we put Edin on the market I think the same thing will happen. These guys are the top of their profession. This move hasn't quite worked out for Edin and Mario's just having a bad run of form but can't be rested due to Sergio's knock, Tevez's unfitness etc.

Mancini was right when he said that he needed four strikers. We've been playing with two and a half for most of the season. And we're still on for a record amount of goals scored etc.

 

[Jay Division]

Balotelli's goal celebrations - didn't Mancini try and defend them and said that Mario expects to score every time he plays, because he knows he's good enough? Or something along them lines.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

He is maturing but he has NOT matured. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being mature he might have made 4 so far and may never get past about8.

"Pace, power, unbelievable technique, vision, awareness, movement, finishing. When he plays to his potential he is literally unplayable"

That for me is a worrying statement.Of course he has some of all of that but the only thing I would say is unbelievable is how little we are seeing of most of the list. I honestly cannot remember when any one of those talents mentioned has shown itself in a match and really counted.

The one mega talented thing he has shown and consistently is his penalty taking skill.
I can't say I have ever seen his pace take him flying away from an opponent to help create or score a goal.He is quick but not specially quick.
Power? Has he,does he show it.All I see is him fall over far too easily which suggests lack of power.And yes I think he gets no help from referees when he is manhandled but if he had power he should handle that like Aguero does.Now there's power!
Unbelievable technique. Remind me when he has shown it that matters.Maybe there has been a flash of it on rare occasions but just when good technique has been needed it seems to have let him down.e.g. when clean through against Swansea and Chelsea only to mess up the first touches.
Vision/awareness. I will give you that at times but sadly then his technique has let him down when going for the pass that he sees as it usually fails.
Movement. At times pretty good but of late it's poor.Not all the time of course but his current movement is awful as he is letting himself get marked far too easily.Stoke was a great example of that.
Finishing.The potential is there but he certainly isnt lethal is he.Not that many strikers actually are but that game against (BBurn or was it Bolton) shows that he can miss with the best.Was it 7 he missed in that game and about 4 or 5 were quite easy ones.The first at the swamp was a great example of what he can do but we seriuyosly need a bit more like that.

The bottom line is that he has masses of potential but unplayable he is not and to date almost without fail has never been.

 

[TCIB]

What do you think to the idea of a loan to a well managed club like Sunderland or Fulham for a few months ?.

With the best will in the world mate, I think you've been smoking crack if you think that's a decent suggestion. :) (jokes!) I bet you my life's savings that if we put Mario on the market this summer every single top club the world over, from Barcelona to AC Milan and in between would be queueing up for his services. Just as if we put Edin on the market I think the same thing will happen. These guys are the top of their profession. This move hasn't quite worked out for Edin and Mario's just having a bad run of form but can't be rested due to Sergio's knock, Tevez's unfitness etc.

Mancini was right when he said that he needed four strikers. We've been playing with two and a half for most of the season. And we're still on for a record amount of goals scored etc.

Oh i fully agree how it sounds. It is just me really wanting all the cake for us.

They would of course want him. You never know though if Bobby said it to him he may listen.
I do think it would help bring some perspective in his mind.

I do feel though a club like Arsenal would see him flourish more.
I say that because we are in a pressure cooker atm the likes i have not experienced in my time on this earth.
Arsenal can afford such a young and dotty character as they have kind of accepted that they may need to bide their time for a few years before running at the title again.
We on the other hand need all experienced hands on deck imo.

 

[Matt the Giant]

[The point Mancini was making, and some of us have seen it, is that Balo has all the raw materials. Pace, power, unbelievable technique, vision, awareness, movement, finishing.

- Pace? For short bursts maybe but he is usually caught up with in a few meters, outrun by average PL defenders.

- Power? He falls to the ground as soon as, or even slightly before, someone touches him.

- Unbelievable technique? You mean how he every time he gets the ball he turns around with his back facing the opponents half, tries to protect the ball until someone touches him, or am about to?
Sometimes he pulls his stunts off, but in order to have "unbelievable technique" I think you have to be a hell of a lot better than what Balo is showing.

- Vision, awareness and movement? I'm not sure I know how to identify or spot those qualities. but if a player had great vision and awareness, wouldn't he be more involved in the game than what Balo usually is?

Finishing? Well sometimes, on rare occasions yes,


I don't dislike Mario, not at all, but I do not buy into the hype around this place and amongst many fans surrounding him. He simply is not that good now, and his potential means absolutely jack squat for us atm.

I think he will go back to Italy and AC Milan, where it's easier for him and his ego to believe in his own myth. When that happens I don't know... maybe when Mancini leaves or possibly before.

 

[MSP]

MSP is indeed our defence against the hoards of his fellow countrymen ready to kill if you put your finger even close to the "D" button :p

You do realise Billy you and i are having a reasoned non aggresive sensible chat on bluemoon !

We should screencap this as proof it does happen the odd time hehe.

Thanks, but I don't need defending from Balotelli gang. There are absolutely same as Dzeko one.

If you don't bow to their idol and don't say that he is the biggest thing since Elvis Presley, then you're shit and don't know shit about football.

Well, single shit here is that I don't give a shit when I touch their emotions toward their footy idols.

I have my opinion about pretty much everything and in my eyes that opinion is priceless :)

 

[RandomJ]

[The point Mancini was making, and some of us have seen it, is that Balo has all the raw materials. Pace, power, unbelievable technique, vision, awareness, movement, finishing.

- Pace? For short bursts maybe but he is usually caught up with in a few meters, outrun by average PL defenders.

- Power? He falls to the ground as soon as, or even slightly before, someone touches him.

- Unbelievable technique? You mean how he every time he gets the ball he turns around with his back facing the opponents half, tries to protect the ball until someone touches him, or am about to?
Sometimes he pulls his stunts off, but in order to have "unbelievable technique" I think you have to be a hell of a lot better than what Balo is showing.

- Vision, awareness and movement? I'm not sure I know how to identify or spot those qualities. but if a player had great vision and awareness, wouldn't he be more involved in the game than what Balo usually is?

Finishing? Well sometimes, on rare occasions yes,


I don't dislike Mario, not at all, but I do not buy into the hype around this place and amongst many fans surrounding him. He simply is not that good now, and his potential means absolutely jack squat for us atm.

I think he will go back to Italy and AC Milan, where it's easier for him and his ego to believe in his own myth. When that happens I don't know... maybe when Mancini leaves or possibly before.

Spot on. He isn't a world class striker and is a very long way away from being one both football wise and mentally.

 

[Anonymous]

I can't say I have ever seen his pace take him flying away from an opponent to help create or score a goal.He is quick but not specially quick.

He's one of the fastest players in the league over 50 yards IMO. What he doesn't have, is unbelievable acceleration, but I think there's a subtle difference.

Power? Has he,does he show it.All I see is him fall over far too easily which suggests lack of power.And yes I think he gets no help from referees when he is manhandled but if he had power he should handle that like Aguero does.Now there's power!

Mario grew up in a footballing culture where first and foremost, you hit the deck once you feel contact. I totally agree that he needs to stop trying to win free kicks and bully players the way he can. But I also can think of plenty of times this season when he's won an aerial ball in the box and then held off a challenge he had no right to hold off.

Unbelievable technique. Remind me when he has shown it that matters.Maybe there has been a flash of it on rare occasions but just when good technique has been needed it seems to have let him down.e.g. when clean through against Swansea and Chelsea only to mess up the first touches.

I'm sorry but hear I'm wondering if we're watching the same player. His recent poor form aside, his technical skill astounds me. Did you see against Stoke when he managed to bamboozle three defenders and make the room he required to get into an excellent shooting position.

Vision/awareness. I will give you that at times but sadly then his technique has let him down when going for the pass that he sees as it usually fails.

He sees passes in the way Silva and Nasri do. He attempts them. Some come off, some don't. But he sees them. That's a gift you can't train into someone and as his overall passing improves we'll see that more.

Movement. At times pretty good but of late it's poor.Not all the time of course but his current movement is awful as he is letting himself get marked far too easily.Stoke was a great example of that.
Finishing.The potential is there but he certainly isnt lethal is he.Not that many strikers actually are but that game against (BBurn or was it Bolton) shows that he can miss with the best.Was it 7 he missed in that game and about 4 or 5 were quite easy ones.The first at the swamp was a great example of what he can do but we seriuyosly need a bit more like that.

I'm going to answer the movement and finishing part together. For me, between October and February Mario was comfortably our best forward, led the line superbly, and really looked to be the player Mancini has said he can be. His form has dipped dramatically but you come to expect that from players of his age and maturity. That dip in form more than anything has manifested itself in his finishing and movement.

The bottom line is that he has masses of potential but unplayable he is not and to date almost without fail has never been.

I won't argue with you about how much potential he has realised up until now. I do think on his day he's unplayable, but I'll concede we haven't seen that recently. However for me, we have seen it this season, and not just on the odd occasion.

 

[God game lover]

Hey guys Mancini is in Bosnia in Medugorje sanctuary praying to God and holly Mary to win title. It is not a joke.

http://crownofstars.blogspot.com/2012/03/roberto-mancini-manager-of-british.html