Banning smoking in beer gardens

[City Hobgoblin]

The main concern around this is the number of children developing a nicotine addiction thanks to the unregulated vapes market.
Seems a bit harsh to ban smokers from one important avenue for socialising and catching up with mates.
Keep the inside ban but allow it outside.
In the meantime work on the problems of people getting addicted in their teens or early twenties.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think this is taking things a step too far, I smoke (and have done for over 50 years and having paid all the ludicrous tax hikes and rather than being a bloody burden on the NHS I think I've contributed more than enough!) and am aware it's not healthy but where is the freedom of choice? I still maintain that pubs should be able to allow smoking inside the pub never mind the beer gardens. No-one is umaware of the health risks so if a pub chooses to allow smoking and people don't like it then go elsewhere to a pub that doesn't allow it?
Driving is dangerous (for innocent pedestrians as well as drivers), when are we going to ban cars and buses?
It infuriates me that one hand we have shop lifting being given the green light thanks to the police ignoring it and people convicted of knife crime etc getting an automatic 50% off etc etc etc plus billions of pounds to pay benefits to people who've never contributed taxes we have the time and money to try and stop people having a smoke in the open air!!

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[GornikDaze]

Nitpicking here, My friends were vaping, not smoking. Same difference, though. And yes, it was indeed my choice. I get over very rarely these days, and wanted to spend as much time as possible with them. As it was for smokers who decided to start the habit.

Vaping is just as bad - at least with fags you just stink. Going home smelling of strawberry popcorn is obnoxious and unnecessary. At least vapers have the common sense to think it’s good for them!

 

[City Hobgoblin]

It was never really brought in to protect customers who have a choice though, it was brought in to protect staff who have no say in the matter. And that's absolutely the right approach in my opinion (even as a smoker).

Spot on.

 

[GornikDaze]

It was never really brought in to protect customers who have a choice though, it was brought in to protect staff who have no say in the matter. And that's absolutely the right approach in my opinion (even as a smoker).

I’m sure the OP would argue that only smoking staff should be employed to make his argument more sensible

 

[stonerblue]

Can’t agree on that. Smoking is an obnoxious habit, and a killer. Which I'm sure you are well aware of. Why should non smokers be subjected to the stink created by smokers? Going home with your hair (not so much in my case!) and clothes reeking of cigarette smoke? No, thanks. I was in Mary D's last weekend, and was with friends out in the smoking area. It was horrible. Now; if people want to slowly kill themselves, that's their choice. But, please, don't inflict it on me or other non smokers. Thanks.

Er, you've inflicted it on yourself by going in the smoking area soft arse.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I think this is taking things a step too far, I smoke (and have done for over 50 years and having paid all the ludicrous tax hikes and rather than being a bloody burden on the NHS I think I've contributed more than enough!) and am aware it's not healthy but where is the freedom of choice? I still maintain that pubs should be able to allow smoking inside the pub never mind the beer gardens. No-one is umaware of the health risks so if a pub chooses to allow smoking and people don't like it then go elsewhere to a pub that doesn't allow it?
Driving is dangerous (for innocent pedestrians as well as drivers), when are we going to ban cars and buses?
It infuriates me that one hand we have shop lifting being given the green light thanks to the police ignoring it and people convicted of knife crime etc getting an automatic 50% off etc etc etc plus billions of pounds to pay benefits to people who've never contributed taxes we have the time and money to try and stop people having a smoke in the open air!!

Don't mind tobacco smokers (not where people are eating though)
It's the other stuff that people smoke that I don't like.

Maybe these are the people the gov are after

 

[M23 Citizen]

I’m a non-smoker but I used to smoke in my early 20s and really liked a cig with a pint. I also liked a cig with a coffee after finishing a big breakfast.

But, I have to say, that going even further and introducing a blanket national/international ban on the selling/buying of cigarettes full stop wouldn’t be a bad thing. They’re horrifically bad for us!

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

If there’s a smoking area, which is downwind then that’s fine, but beer gardens are not smoking areas. They are outside spaces where I can enjoy a pint in the glorious British summer, and should be able to do that without getting more than the odd intake of second hand smoke.

 

[Stelea]

Vapes are literally the smoking gun at the moment. Hate the thought of my lad vaping (if he is)