Bar service at CoMS

kippaxblue76 said:
mcfc_0k said:
Yesterday I wrote an e-mail to the club complaining about the service at the bar and also the taste of the Singh Beer this season so far. I've had to change my pint twice on the bounce for home games Wolves & Arsenal. Also had to queue up like a sardine for 20odd minutes whilst watching people nose-to-nose with each other on the verge of a scrap! Then a further 10mins to get it changed, which has resulted in missing some of the game.

Danny Wilson called me within a couple of hours and I have since received an e-mail from the catering manager. Danny said this is not the first time he's heard about these issues.

The catering manager wants to meet me for a chat tonight to discuss these problems, and it would be good if any of you have any serious suggestions that could improve the service speed, or even mention some of your shocking experiences. The club have recruited a proper cellar manager this week so this could sort out the beer taste.

I usually drink in the East Stand Lower tier, however I am sure it happens elsewhere, can people clarify this and give block numbers?

It seems as though they are eager to put it right so lets help them out....

Cheers


Had a similar problem at both home games this season, ordered a pint of bitter at the Arsenal game and it tasted of cleaning fluid, got it changed but second pint no different, took it back again and i had a cider instead, plenty of others taking it back and eventually they gave up with the bitter. My mates went down at half time but they had run out of lager altogether! Also there is still the problem with most of the staff who cannot speak or understand a word of english, you have to point to what you want, at the Wolves game i was driving so asked for a shandy, the guy did not have a clue, i had to virtually do it for him, when you go to the game and pay the prices they charge you want the best beer and the best staff, its all very amateurish and is one area the club needs to address urgently. Block 217 south stand. The speed the beer comes out of the pumps is also a problem, very very slow.


completely agree both home games i have been to everything the catering staff could do wrong do wrong and the beer is poor for the price you pay,evryone basically is saying the same thing so hopefully this can be sorted sooner rather than later
 
Got my mate to go for me but it didn't seem to take too long, although we left a couple of mins ebfore half time.

Mary D's were pretty nippy with their 6 pint puller thing though!
 
rhysmcfc said:
Dunno how they do it up there, but down here at the old Olympic stadium, they have a 4-beer pourer which does 4 pints in 3-5 seconds.

At the Sydney Football Stadium, they have one person pouring beers constantly which takes 5ish seconds, while someone else does soft drink/spirits/etc and one on the register.

Only takes a minute or so to be done.

How many times has this been suggested? This would triple the amount of beverages sold in an instant. I don't drink at the ground but I'll often get a coffee. Last night the bar was empty, 6 or 7 staff and not one of them acknowledged me when I walked up for service. My point is to make it work you need the staff to operate such a system and I fear it may be too much for some of them.

edit - Danny Wilson seems a decent guy, seems to do his job with the right attitude from what I've heard. Perhaps he or his staff should come and observe procedings. Perhaps he already has but fair play for his actions so far, seems he does want to sort things out.
 
and can we please ditch the horrible new chicken balti pie and bring back the luvverly old one
 
Had to comment on the bar staff last night .......

Had been queing up at half time for a beer eventually get to the front and was waiting a couple of mins when some guy behind me shouts up for 2 fosters! and the prick of a bar girl serves him even though we had been waiting!. I was fukin fuming. Then when she gave him the beers he ran off without paying so serves the silly cow right! ;-)

They do my head in at the best of times but this took the biscuit!!
 
fastest way to get a positive response is to boycott the bars. outside contractor or not, this would force the club to take action. everybody seems to agree the beer is overpriced piss so it can't be that much of an effort not to spend your hard earned until things improve.
 
Fanzone Danny said:
Had to comment on the bar staff last night .......

Had been queing up at half time for a beer eventually get to the front and was waiting a couple of mins when some guy behind me shouts up for 2 fosters! and the prick of a bar girl serves him even though we had been waiting!. I was fukin fuming. Then when she gave him the beers he ran off without paying so serves the silly cow right! ;-)

They do my head in at the best of times but this took the biscuit!!


The bar girl probably knew the bloke...hence serving him first, and not getting any cash for them!
;-)
 
Perhaps what the catering Manager should do is put a city shirt on at half time and try and get friggin served. When he does finally get served he can sample and then he will know at first hand what the problem is. I personally dont bother going anymore. It creates to much tension, especailly when you know you are being ripped off.
 
Ok folks last night’s meeting went well. I met with 3 members of staff, 2 from the external catering firm and Neil Worcester, MCFC Catering & Operations manager.

Neil had read this thread yesterday morning when it was at around 3 pages long and had looked through the suggestions that some of you had made. He basically agrees with pretty much everything mentioned. They are fully aware of the issues, obviously my complaint wasn’t the first and no way will it be the last. Neil has his hands tied with this at the moment due to GMP & Manchester City Council (who own our ground). Neil also mentioned that this was recently brought up and discussed at Points of Blue, which Prestwich_Blue previously said.

Queuing – The council will not allow the club to put in queuing rails for health & safety reasons. However Neil insists they are doing their utmost to find an alternative that will be allowed by the council. They looked into installing state-of-the-art LED ‘runway-style’ lighting for queues but this couldn’t be implemented before the current season.

Extra staff/Tills/Pint-pourers – Again, health & safety. The space behind the bar is not big enough and the council are putting their foot down on this.

The staff – This is a concern for Neil as it seems a lot of the staff cannot speak/understand basic English. They are also aware that there are issues in certain instances with the speed and attitude of the staff and they are going to be having meetings with each member of staff to try and resolve this.

Bottles – There are, or were, current plans to introduce more bottle stations, however due to the events at the Arsenal match GMP have now put their foot down on this. I noticed last night the bottle bar near block 110/111 was closed.

Cellars – They have employed a full-time cellar manager to get the job done properly. He previously worked at Budweiser. This should prevent getting a pint of pipe-cleaner. I was actually shown one of the cellars, and I must say they are working in terrible conditions. A very small & cramped room with no floor space to move. This cellar fed 3 bars. The room was so narrow is was shocking, feel sorry for the guys who have to change a barrel at the back, means lifting the barrel over about 18 others to get to the back. Not practical at all. The cooling system is shite too, keeping the beer over the temperature it should be. Which is another reason why the beer isn’t perfect. They got people in to sort this out, however got pulled away due to H&S again. A joke really!

Backpacks – One thing we will hopefully see soon is what you see at the gigs/concerts, which has already been suggested. The guys topping up beer with their backpacks on. This hopefully should take some pressure off the bars. However again the council are holding us back on this. The club are just waiting for the green light.

Top-up system – This has been looked into. At Schalke last season, those of us who went, had to buy a Knapper card which was topped up with credit and was deducted at the bar when you bought some lager. Neil has been out to Germany and has been given the Demo’s and has even been given a quote. He is 100% all for it. However it seems the club aren’t so keen on the price. What’s £1m to city these days? This is something Neil is working on anyway, whether or when it happens, who knows....The club are also looking at going out to Miami to the home of the NFL team, the Dolphins, who apparently have ‘state of the art’ catering facilities. They are doing their research and are considering getting rid of each and every bar and food outlet within the stadium to replace it with state of the art, never seen before TOP NOTCH facilities. Obviously this will be a long-term goal and won’t happen overnight, the research needs to be done first so it’s done right.

So it seems the club are aware and are doing everything in their power to get this issue sorted. However seem to have their hands tied by various authorities which is the problem. The council seem to be the main issue, have any of you noticed that the hotdog stands have recently shut? Well, thats thanks to the council! The stadium was very badly designed as far as the catering side of things go and is causing many problems for us & the club. The obvious solution for me would be to buy the stadium off the council, job done. However I'm aware its probably not that simple! Definitely an argument FOR buying it though.

My girlfriend, Emily, who works on Blue Tuesday for BBC Radio Manchester was also with me last night. Neil agreed to go on the show to discuss these issues so that the fans can “hear it from the horse’s mouth”, as some may say. He is also asking Danny Wilson to appear with him.

I think I covered everything from last night, however there was a lot to cram into 25mins just before kick off! If I remember anything else relevant I will add it to the end of this post....


edit - it seems the vast majority of us, including myself, weren't aware of the complications that the council are causing... can i stress that the club are clearly doing their very best to rectify these issues... and i think the fact 3 people were willing to meet me last night proves this... It seems the club are the one's looking like knobs when really its the council, with all their restrictions and rules...

edit - Also, pre-pouring systems are already in place, to a certain extent. Behind each bar there is a log that is kept with instructions on how many pints to pre-pour depending on the bar. The catering manager from the catering firm said if we know which bars are being over-run, then he can increase the amount pre-poured... however its important they know which bars before they can do this...
 

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