BBC Director - "To Axe Left Wing Comedy"

Ian Hislop is believed to be a liberal, but as he speaks nice you’d think must vote Tory. That’s not a dig at why you put him on the list btw mate as I instantly thought of him when the question of right wing comedians came up.

I suppose it says more about our own subconscious bias

No I have watched many years of HIGNFY and to me he seems to be a liberal conservative, hence why I put him as soft right.

Never called him a tory, he is more an orange book liberal, and they are still right wing.

And how does he talk nice? His accent isn't posh and is quite neutral and common so their is no region bias to pick up on
 
I’m struggling to disagree with much of what you’ve said there, other than the fact I’m looking away from anything, but I think you’ve missed the point I was making, namely that there is a clear distinction between right wing and far—right wing politics - and sustained engagement in lazy conflation of the two by people on the left probably goes some way to explain why Labour has conspicuously lost the centre ground.

I take your point on how lazy conflations can or have alienated people. It's a big problem for the left to be seen as talking down to people. Starmer seems to have identified that and is trying to adjust course, I trust him to pull it off.

And yes agreed there's a long spectrum from centre right to hard right to the point that they're totally different. I'm not sure about that *clear* distinction though in the context of the current government (not that I'm saying they're hard right, just that there's tension between economic and cultural conservatism and a growing number of grey areas) Good article by William Hague about it here ...

 
I take your point on how lazy conflations can or have alienated people. It's a big problem for the left to be seen as talking down to people. Starmer seems to have identified that and is trying to adjust course, I trust him to pull it off.

And yes agreed there's a long spectrum from centre right to hard right to the point that they're totally different. I'm not sure about that *clear* distinction though in the context of the current government (not that I'm saying they're hard right, just that there's tension between economic and cultural conservatism and a growing number of grey areas) Good article by William Hague about it here ...

Totally agree with everything you’ve said there, mate.
 
I take your point on how lazy conflations can or have alienated people. It's a big problem for the left to be seen as talking down to people. Starmer seems to have identified that and is trying to adjust course, I trust him to pull it off.

And yes agreed there's a long spectrum from centre right to hard right to the point that they're totally different. I'm not sure about that *clear* distinction though in the context of the current government (not that I'm saying they're hard right, just that there's tension between economic and cultural conservatism and a growing number of grey areas) Good article by William Hague about it here ...

You’ve made a very good assessment there.

Cameron, to me, was an Orange Booker, not a conservative. He had a stand off with proper conservatives on his back benches for some time.

Johnson, who knows what he is, I don’t think he even knows, whatever it takes to get into power.
 
No I have watched many years of HIGNFY and to me he seems to be a liberal conservative, hence why I put him as soft right.

Never called him a tory, he is more an orange book liberal, and they are still right wing.

And how does he talk nice? His accent isn't posh and is quite neutral and common so their is no region bias to pick up on

I wouldn't even class Hislop as a comedian - he is the editor of a satirical magazine. His political views are on record as thus

Political views[edit]​

Hislop has been highly critical of all major British political parties for over 20 years. Appearing on Question Time on 18 September 2008, he praised Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable for his analysis of the financial crisis of 2007–2008, and apparently expressed support for the Liberal Democrats, jocularly stating "I'm standing for them."[41]

In a 2009 "Five minutes with" interview with Matthew Stadlen for BBC News, Hislop stated that if he were required, "at the point of a gun", to stand in an election for any British political party, he would stand for the fictional "Vince Cable for Treasurer Party".[42] After the formation of the coalition government in 2010, Hislop remarked in an interview, "I like the idea of this coalition neutralising the loonies on both sides".[43]

He has also been highly critical of the leadership of the European Union, calling for a referendum on the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe in a 2003 recording of Have I Got News for You.[44] However, referring to Britain's vote to leave the European Union (Brexit), Hislop said on Question Time that "after an election or a referendum, even if you lose the vote, you are entitled to go on making the argument".[31] A joke on the front of Private Eye titled "BREXIT LATEST" mocking the reaction to Brexit received "fifty or so" letters of complaint in the next issue.[45] Hislop mocked this, saying that "There was one [letter] from a vicar, too, who told me that it was time to accept the victory of the majority of the people and to stop complaining. ... I wrote back and told him that this argument was a bit much, coming from a church that had begun with a minority of 12".[46] He has expressed dismay over the level of public debate in the aftermath of Britain's vote to leave the EU and the election of Donald Trump, describing it as Orwellian in nature, saying that "one is unsure whether to feel relieved at the sense of déjà vu or worried about the possibility of history repeating itself, not as farce, but as tragedy again."[46]

In 2019, an outtake from Have I Got News For You went viral, featuring Hislop saying that he would like to see Boris Johnson "have a fair trial, with a desirable result of him being in prison forever". The comment was made in response of the High Court's ruling that Johnson would not have to face a criminal prosecution for claims he made during the EU referendum.[47]
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.