BBC licence fee

I don't watch or listen to any of those and American TV series piss all over BBC ones currently.

The future is very much piracy and people sharing devices and network suppliers.
No, I can't say I watch Countryfile either, but the point is I don't mind putting a couple of quid in so those voices are represented, and while I don't watch CBBC now I did when I was growing up. We get the best American TV, a lot of it on the BBC, but 90% of it is disposable shite.
 
The future is very much piracy and people sharing devices and network suppliers.
If it is expect a future of shit lowest common denominator programmes ,because it will be impoosible to make the money to produce good quality programmes that appeal to smaller audiences.
 
No, I can't say I watch Countryfile either, but the point is I don't mind putting a couple of quid in so those voices are represented, and while I don't watch CBBC now I did when I was growing up. We get the best American TV, a lot of it on the BBC, but 90% of it is disposable shite.
Most of it is on netflix and amazon tbf. Whatever way you frame it you are asking people to cough up for something they might not want. If I like netflix should you pay part of my subscription.

We can't put a lid back on all this. I'm honestly unsure what I would do if I had the say. The BBC are expanding into commercialisation themselves. What's all this Britbox bollocks about?
 
If it is expect a future of shit lowest common denominator programmes ,because it will be impoosible to make the money to produce good quality programmes that appeal to smaller audiences.
Amazon bt and netflix must know it happens. Remember they have subscribers all over the world. 2 families sharing is probably worked into the price I'm guessing.
 
My Grandson has just got into spiderman but sky don't have them on now as marvel went to Disney. All on Disney plus I guess. Its never ending.

BBC
Sky
Bt
Netflix
Amazon
Disney
Apple

You could argue we pay for itv channel 4 and 5(who the fuck watches channel 5?) Through advertising costs on products.

Apart from city I'm not arsed about other football and sky have fuck all decent premiers because everyone else is making or buying films.

There is choice but it's spread around too much.

choice is the oxygen of capitalism - it offers more opportunity to rake in more and more cash. Capitalists will argue that the alternative is 70's Russia and East Germany with empty shelves and little fresh produce or choice.

Ironically those same market promoters are behind Brexit which is starting to really badly affect cross border trade
 
Most of it is on netflix and amazon tbf. Whatever way you frame it you are asking people to cough up for something they might not want. If I like netflix should you pay part of my subscription.

We can't put a lid back on all this. I'm honestly unsure what I would do if I had the say. The BBC are expanding into commercialisation themselves. What's all this Britbox bollocks about?
Something the British public already financed through the licence fee, they want us to pay for to access again; seems legit. At least it pays for new stuff as well like a vastly inferior, mediocre Spitting Image reboot.
 
It’d bring cost down tho if they both were allowed to show the same game.

The ideal for football fans is access to several channels broadcasting the same match.

That’ll impact the amount clubs earn tho so won’t happen.

Nobody is keen on that idea.

The reason football generates so much cash in TV rights is they are sold in packages which offer exclusivity - if SKY are offered the same games that can be seen simultaneously on BBC. ITV and Quest - the price would drop and football doesn't want that either.
 
Nobody is keen on that idea.

The reason football generates so much cash in TV rights is they are sold in packages which offer exclusivity - if SKY are offered the same games that can be seen simultaneously on BBC. ITV and Quest - the price would drop and football doesn't want that either.
I don’t disagree, it’d be good for the armchair fan but not the clubs or football generally so it won’t happen.
 
Amazon bt and netflix must know it happens. Remember they have subscribers all over the world. 2 families sharing is probably worked into the price I'm guessing.
I'd guess so,the sharing I can see and they can limit devices on one account as they allow about 4 that will be priced in, the pirating is very different.
 
Most of it is on netflix and amazon tbf. Whatever way you frame it you are asking people to cough up for something they might not want. If I like netflix should you pay part of my subscription.

We can't put a lid back on all this. I'm honestly unsure what I would do if I had the say. The BBC are expanding into commercialisation themselves. What's all this Britbox bollocks about?
I just see it like I see roads or schools or basketball courts in my local park as a non-driver, without kids who doesn't play basketball. I appreciate that we live in a society that increasingly sees everything in highly personal and individual terms, though. I just think good television and radio, accessible to almost everyone, that likewise supports UK creative and cultural industries is ultimately a public service, whether I maximize I use of it or not.

BBC has always had a commercial side - if you ever bought VHS of shows or watched UK Gold then you were spending money on something already paid for. Similarly when TV shows are sold aboard via Worldwide. That money is always folded back into the corporation. If they didn't do that then they would get a kicking from the Tories for not maximizing license payer fees. They really have had 50 years now of being damned if they do and damned if they don't.
 

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