BBC licence fee

[Mr Kobayashi]

That's just BBC films which is a small part of BBC output. Most of the Netflix movies would never have seen a cinema, just gone "straight to video".

Yes I'm aware, most have cinematic releases. Many are co-produced. It's now BBC Film (they have dropped the s)

They are very good at partnering with other organisations like BFI and Pathe to create lower budget and niche projects that might not otherwise have been made (or made in a full feature film format).

Best films on Netflix are still those produced by the traditional studios and streamed under license.

 

[Kompany Car]

If it is expect a future of shit lowest common denominator programmes ,because it will be impoosible to make the money to produce good quality programmes that appeal to smaller audiences.

Fully agree, you only need to look at popular music. The more commercialisation the less risk the companies are willing to take, so they stick to a tried and tested formula leading to very little innovation. It's also gone that way in the movie industry, the oddball one off hits that you tend to still get are normally funded in conjunction with a national film board.

 

[Vic]

The BBC has been exposed, that's what's really happening. It isn't about some major problem with the idea of what the BBC is, far from it. I don't know anyone who wouldn't pay for quality content but that's not what you get really.

An old dear who listens to the radio and watches BBC news everyday should not be paying £160 a year for that privilege. The parents of a kid watching an educational programme should not be paying £160 per year else they get a visit from bailiffs.

Let's put it another way, the BBC employs 22,000 people and Netflix employs 12,000 people yet who is putting out better content and who is cheaper?

Basically, the BBC cannot compete, it has always been a bloated and costly organisation which exists that way because it can always rely on public money. It has too many people on too much money, it has an office complex in central London and Salford Quays that would rival the richest companies in the world yet the reality is it would barely register on the UK Top 100 list if it was a private company.

Had it not been for it's public funding model then let's face it, it would be bankrupt. The result of that can't be that we all must suck it up and pay whatever it takes to keep it going. We especially shouldn't be doing that if only to ensure that Gary Lineker continues to be paid 10x more than a FTSE100 CEO for a few hours work per week.....

How many of the Netflix staff are involved in producing output and how many in selling subscriptions?

 

[Eccles Blue]

Netflix and the BBC are apples and oranges, really. One is a public service broadcaster with a very specific remit and charter doing local, national and global radio and television across dozens of channels and the other is a subbed global streaming service that doesn't make nearly as much content as appears on the surface.

How much should the old dear (though presumably not that old otherwise she'd be getting it for free) who listens to the radio and watches BBC News everyday pay? Or a young family who watches CBeebies (presumably along other things as well)?

I'd also question whether Netflix really is putting out as much quality as you claim. When was the last original show that they made that you watched and thought was excellent? The Queen's Gambit? They buy up lots of quality stuff, the BBC's stuff included, but I don't think there reputation is nearly as warranted.

The BBC also plays a role in developing British talent, working with smaller British production companies, that benefit the wider ecosystem.

I don't think the organization is perfect, but I think sacking it off because Gary Lineker is paid a competitive salary would do so much damage to the rest of the creative and cultural sector and the diversity of content available to us. I'm willing to see what Nadine has got to offer us, but, as with much of the Johnson government, this is very short on policy detail.

The 'old dears' don't get it for free, unless they are on certain benefits. This was taken from us a while ago. :-) There were only 2 things I got for 'free' as I got older...TV licence and prescriptions. Don't get me wrong I don't expect anything for free but it was nice. I have a pension that I paid into all my working life as well as the state pension so hey ho.

Personally, although I was a little annoyed when they took the free licence from the oldies, I don't mind paying the licence fee. This is partly because I do listen to the radio, I checked the programmes I watch/record and over 60% of them are BBC programmes. I have BT as my extra channels provider and Amazon Prime. I don't have Netflix partly because I can't afford it and I would never pay for SKY although I can access their programmes in a reciprocal arrangement with my son (he gets BT) if I want to. My new contract with BT means that I also now get some of SKY's programmes if I wish to watch them. (Non HD only).
I understand the objections to paying Lineker and Shearer absurd money and just hope that these 'new kids on the block' (Sam Quek, Jermaine Jenas, Alex Scott et al) who pop up on every programme known to man or woman at the moment don't get paid even half of what the 'old guard' get!!

Nadine whatever her name is just needs to sit down and do a bit of research and listen to not just the up and coming generation but the ones who don't have the same high profile on social media or in fact any kind of media.

The BBC caters for all ranges and does not just produce TV programmes; it also produces highly rated documentaries, great (on the most part) radio, films etc. so long may it continue in its own inimitable way.
I record most of my programmes so that when I record a commercial station I can flick through the adverts and not watch someone trying to sell me a load of rubbish.

JMHO

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

The 'old dears' don't get it for free, unless they are on certain benefits. This was taken from us a while ago. :-) There were only 2 things I got for 'free' as I got older...TV licence and prescriptions. Don't get me wrong I don't expect anything for free but it was nice. I have a pension that I paid into all my working life as well as the state pension so hey ho.

Personally, although I was a little annoyed when they took the free licence from the oldies, I don't mind paying the licence fee. This is partly because I do listen to the radio, I checked the programmes I watch/record and over 60% of them are BBC programmes. I have BT as my extra channels provider and Amazon Prime. I don't have Netflix partly because I can't afford it and I would never pay for SKY although I can access their programmes in a reciprocal arrangement with my son (he gets BT) if I want to. My new contract with BT means that I also now get some of SKY's programmes if I wish to watch them. (Non HD only).
I understand the objections to paying Lineker and Shearer absurd money and just hope that these 'new kids on the block' (Sam Quek, Jermaine Jenas, Alex Scott et al) who pop up on every programme known to man or woman at the moment don't get paid even half of what the 'old guard' get!!

Nadine whatever her name is just needs to sit down and do a bit of research and listen to not just the up and coming generation but the ones who don't have the same high profile on social media or in fact any kind of media.

The BBC caters for all ranges and does not just produce TV programmes; it also produces highly rated documentaries, great (on the most part) radio, films etc. so long may it continue in its own inimitable way.
I record most of my programmes so that when I record a commercial station I can flick through the adverts and not watch someone trying to sell me a load of rubbish.

JMHO

Great post. Thanks for restoring sense!

 

[Eccles Blue]

Hi again!!
As a sort of appendix to my earlier posting:
I decided to look up Nadine whatsername and found out she was called Nadine Dorries. I read the posting on Wikipedia and (please excuse my hysterical laughter) read that she was in 'I'm a Celebrity...get me out of here'!!!
I hasten to add that I have never watched an episode of this programme either then or recently but purlease!! Was she trying to prove she was down with the kids? I have seen clips of the programme on FB from YouTube and thought what is the point?
But of course I guess I am old fashioned and expect my MP to be working for the money we have paid them from our hard earned taxes and to be available in either the constituency or in London. Yes they are entitled to a holiday but if I figure correctly this programme is on during Parliament sitting time?

Is the fact that she was paid what I understand to be good money from a commercial broadcaster part of the reason that she wants to get rid of the good old Beeb. She doesn't like old Aunties around!! Am I getting cynical?

Now please excuse me, I need a tissue to wipe away these hysterical tears!! Have a good day, stay safe, take care out there.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

I thought what the Wikipedia says about her lame attempt to write a novel was also quite amusing:

‘Dorries' work of fiction gained mostly negative reviews.

Sarah Ditum in the New Statesman complained that some of the sentences "read like clippings from Wikipedia" while Christopher Howse, writing for The Daily Telegraph , thought The Four Streets was "the worst novel I've read in 10 years".’

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Hi again!!
As a sort of appendix to my earlier posting:
I decided to look up Nadine whatsername and found out she was called Nadine Dorries. I read the posting on Wikipedia and (please excuse my hysterical laughter) read that she was in 'I'm a Celebrity...get me out of here'!!!
I hasten to add that I have never watched an episode of this programme either then or recently but purlease!! Was she trying to prove she was down with the kids? I have seen clips of the programme on FB from YouTube and thought what is the point?
But of course I guess I am old fashioned and expect my MP to be working for the money we have paid them from our hard earned taxes and to be available in either the constituency or in London. Yes they are entitled to a holiday but if I figure correctly this programme is on during Parliament sitting time?

Is the fact that she was paid what I understand to be good money from a commercial broadcaster part of the reason that she wants to get rid of the good old Beeb. She doesn't like old Aunties around!! Am I getting cynical?

Now please excuse me, I need a tissue to wipe away these hysterical tears!! Have a good day, stay safe, take care out there.

You are probably not aware that Nadine Dorries put both her teenage daughters on her payroll as special assistants on over £40,000 a year each.
And then has the bloody brass neck to accuse the BBC of nepotism.

Nadine Dorries slammed BBC for ‘nepotism’ but forgot she used to employ her daughters

Nadine Dorries’ attempt to slam the BBC has awkwardly backfired for a very basic reason.Speaking at the Conservative Party conference, the Culture secretary revealed a rather short memory as she accused the corporation of “nepotism” despite her employing her daughters to work in her MP office...

www.indy100.com

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Hi again!!
As a sort of appendix to my earlier posting:
I decided to look up Nadine whatsername and found out she was called Nadine Dorries. I read the posting on Wikipedia and (please excuse my hysterical laughter) read that she was in 'I'm a Celebrity...get me out of here'!!!
I hasten to add that I have never watched an episode of this programme either then or recently but purlease!! Was she trying to prove she was down with the kids? I have seen clips of the programme on FB from YouTube and thought what is the point?
But of course I guess I am old fashioned and expect my MP to be working for the money we have paid them from our hard earned taxes and to be available in either the constituency or in London. Yes they are entitled to a holiday but if I figure correctly this programme is on during Parliament sitting time?

Is the fact that she was paid what I understand to be good money from a commercial broadcaster part of the reason that she wants to get rid of the good old Beeb. She doesn't like old Aunties around!! Am I getting cynical?

Now please excuse me, I need a tissue to wipe away these hysterical tears!! Have a good day, stay safe, take care out there.

I think she got fined for doing it during Parliamentary session.

 

[Eccles Blue]

You are probably not aware that Nadine Dorries put both her teenage daughters on her payroll as special assistants on over £40,000 a year each.
And then has the bloody brass neck to accuse the BBC of nepotism.

Nadine Dorries slammed BBC for ‘nepotism’ but forgot she used to employ her daughters

Nadine Dorries’ attempt to slam the BBC has awkwardly backfired for a very basic reason.Speaking at the Conservative Party conference, the Culture secretary revealed a rather short memory as she accused the corporation of “nepotism” despite her employing her daughters to work in her MP office...

www.indy100.com

WHAAAATT, I was not aware of this.

Wow, maybe I should come in the Politics Sub forum more often!!