BBC pay reveal

The focus is now being shifted from the grossly overpaid male presenters to the grossly overpaid female presenters with the notion that 'gender' is the real issue here and not the eye-watering amounts of money being paid for what the STARS(!) deliver.

Matt Baker? Half a million quid? Do me a favour! How on earth does Winkelman become the highest paid female presenter? The BBC are the epitome of a public institution that pisses money up the wall, and when the public come calling for some say in how the money is spent the same institution tells us that they have to be careful with public money - whilst same said money is spewing out of a fountain into quite 'ordinary' people's bank accounts.

I like listening to Chris Evans on R2 but £2.2? He knows he's overpaid, has said so, and I suspect is more than willing to take a pay cut. Even a 50% pay cut I would still regard as overpaid.

The queue of people who could 'do' Lineker's job would stretch from St James's to St. Mary's!
It's particularly galling when the product he is presenting is so poor. I wonder what BT are paying him on top of that! As for Shearer, words fail me. The BBC should certainly consider hard what licence payers want and I can guarantee if asked, it won't be presenters earning that kind of money.
 
Am about to put in a counter offer for Big Carol to read me the weather every morning in my kitchen, I will of course be providing a selection of outfits to match the forecast.
 
I think it's a little easier for Evans to say that as he could lose a big chunk of his BBC income and still be very, very well off. He gets paid even more than was disclosed as he is also on BBC Worldwide payroll, which operates as a commercial entity and therefore wasn't subject to this pay reveal. He also owns a production company that gets a hell of a lot of work out of the BBC and thus he receives a nice huge wad through that.

It's all very well the likes of him and John Humphreys saying "I'm paid to much", but will they now take a pay cut?

For the record, I don't think they should have to because, as I've stated before, I think the BBC should pay big wages to talent in order to compete with other channels - they might be a public service broadcaster but they still operate in a marketplace. But I'd like to see these apparently noble presenters put their money where their mouth is, if you excuse the pun!

As for the issue of the gender pay gap, I get the feeling that this has just become another stick with which to beat the BBC, and those holding the stick haven't really looked at it objectively or taken in context. People were mocking Dan Walker because he earns more than Louise Minchin, forgetting that he has three jobs at the BBC against her one. Tess Daly earns as much as Simon Mayo: he has a regular radio show and also does numerous events and specials with Mark Kermode, whereas she works for 10 weekends at the end of the year and does Children In Need for one night per year. Gary Linker might be earning more than female sports presenters, but then he is presenting what is by far the most popular and lucrative sport in England, and is very qualified to do so.

I'm not saying there isn't a disparity and unfairness between the genders in some or even many cases, but it's nowhere near as bad as the Dacre and Murdoch media is making out (and we all know what their motives are). Piers Morgan can mock and scream from his soapbox all he likes, but until we see his payslip alongside Susanna Reid's then he should probably shut up (if only he was bright enough to).


What sbould have been alongside the pay what hrs usually worked, I don't accept personnaly this "I work 3 shows" guff walker came out with, if he works contracted to the beeb as a journalist and presenter doing say 40 hrs a week, then how many shows he presents in that time has fuck all to do with it imho, I work as a catering manager for a company, but may fill in in my working week in Facilites ,I don't get paid 2 salaries for it as it's part of my contracted hrs.

If indeed he works hypothetically 40 hrs and Minchin only worked say 20hrs that would have give a better perspective of the pay difference.
 
I really dont get the uproar, yes, these are big salaries, but what would they get if they went else where? It will be a hell of a lot more than they are getting now and without the BBC a lot of the top TV shows from british TV history wouldn't exist. Here are a list of a few that I doubt would have seen the light of dayif it wasn't for the BBC. Channels with adverts tend to tow the line more because they risk losing avertisers, where as the BBC can, and do take risks which allow creative freedom, yeah a lot of it ends up being shite but then a lot is great. This excludes all the natural world stuff.

  • Shooting Stars,
  • The Royle Family
  • I’m Alan Partridge
  • Absolutely Fabulous
  • The Young Ones
  • Play School
  • Match of the Day
  • The Fast Show
  • The Day Today
  • Horizon
  • Fawlty Towers
  • Yes Minister/Yes, Prime Minister
  • The Office
  • The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin
  • The Two Ronnies
  • Luther
  • Top of the Pops
  • Only Fools and Horses
  • Steptoe and Son
  • Blue Peter
  • Grange Hill
  • Threads
  • Blackadder
  • Top Gear


 
What sbould have been alongside the pay what hrs usually worked, I don't accept personnaly this "I work 3 shows" guff walker came out with, if he works contracted to the beeb as a journalist and presenter doing say 40 hrs a week, then how many shows he presents in that time has fuck all to do with it imho, I work as a catering manager for a company, but may fill in in my working week in Facilites ,I don't get paid 2 salaries for it as it's part of my contracted hrs.

If indeed he works hypothetically 40 hrs and Minchin only worked say 20hrs that would have give a better perspective of the pay difference.
Yes, I totally agree with that. I think that would make comparisons a lot fairer and easier. I suppose we could also consider what the actual work is; in the same way that working as a nurse for an hour is more demanding than working in a sleepy market town boutique, I dare say presenting something like live BBC Breakfast is a lot harder than presenting the pre-recorded, rehearsed and edited Strictly Come Dancing.

I really dont get the uproar, yes, these are big salaries, but what would they get if they went else where? It will be a hell of a lot more than they are getting now and without the BBC a lot of the top TV shows from british TV history wouldn't exist. Here are a list of a few that I doubt would have seen the light of dayif it wasn't for the BBC.
That pretty much sums up my feelings. For every 'Coming of Age' and 'Miranda', there is 'Blackadder', 'The Day Today', 'Alan Partridge', 'Mighty Boosh', 'The Office'...so many to choose from.

I'd happily pay £150 per year for the rest of my life simply for the fact that 'Yes Minister' existed.
 
What sbould have been alongside the pay what hrs usually worked, I don't accept personnaly this "I work 3 shows" guff walker came out with, if he works contracted to the beeb as a journalist and presenter doing say 40 hrs a week, then how many shows he presents in that time has fuck all to do with it imho, I work as a catering manager for a company, but may fill in in my working week in Facilites ,I don't get paid 2 salaries for it as it's part of my contracted hrs.

If indeed he works hypothetically 40 hrs and Minchin only worked say 20hrs that would have give a better perspective of the pay difference.

100% this. The figures are useless without context. For instance Chris Evans has a full production company so I'd expect his pay to be the highest where as Alan Shearer just appears for 5 minutes every Saturday which makes him far more wasteful as you could just cut him out completely as he's unnecessary as a pundit and as a person.
 
Lineker response saying He would get paid more somewhere else! Well go to them then! Thing is working for the bbc is a cushy job international competition him and his mates take the golf clubs and is like a paid holiday for them all! So Lineker really doesn't want to go anywhere else he knows where his bread is buttered!
 
What sbould have been alongside the pay what hrs usually worked, I don't accept personnaly this "I work 3 shows" guff walker came out with, if he works contracted to the beeb as a journalist and presenter doing say 40 hrs a week, then how many shows he presents in that time has fuck all to do with it imho, I work as a catering manager for a company, but may fill in in my working week in Facilites ,I don't get paid 2 salaries for it as it's part of my contracted hrs.

If indeed he works hypothetically 40 hrs and Minchin only worked say 20hrs that would have give a better perspective of the pay difference.

Altough it does appear that the blokes are more likely to get the 2nd jobs than the women
 
What sbould have been alongside the pay what hrs usually worked, I don't accept personnaly this "I work 3 shows" guff walker came out with, if he works contracted to the beeb as a journalist and presenter doing say 40 hrs a week, then how many shows he presents in that time has fuck all to do with it imho, I work as a catering manager for a company, but may fill in in my working week in Facilites ,I don't get paid 2 salaries for it as it's part of my contracted hrs.

If indeed he works hypothetically 40 hrs and Minchin only worked say 20hrs that would have give a better perspective of the pay difference.

Walker stated clearly that the Breakfast presenters are paid the same. He is paid more because he presents other programmes as well. That seems reasonable, and I doubt he'd have said the bit about equal pay if it wasn't true.

Breakfast TV is 3 hours broadcast 3 or 4 days a week, plus preparation time, plus (I assume) a higher rate for unsociable hours.
 
Altough it does appear that the blokes are more likely to get the 2nd jobs than the women

A matter of having kids, and who looks after them, maybe?

The figures are only signposts really, as so many aren't listed (e.g. Dimbleby, Berry, Norton's TV show), and there's no breakdown of which shows pay how much.

Winkelman and Alex Jones on 400k are just as crazy as Vine being on potloads.
 

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