Belgian Fans (merged)

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No they really don't. If foreign fans want to come and expand the fanbase, they're more than welcome to home games or even away games that go on general sale. 200 of them should not be able to leapfrog the queue for a game that sold out at 13k loyalty points. That is just wrong

You know that big clubs are big clubs only because their fans, not the Money they invest. Once you rich a level, like we did, the only way is up. That s why PSG Will never be as big as City, but City Will be there with Real, Barca, Munchen,Milan..

 

[deafmanstevo]

You can't really compare the arsenal game to the home champs league game against borrusia , cos they were many empty seats there anyway and the borrusia fans were just taking up empty seats as we have done over the years at various games.

The arsenal game is different as it was an away game with a limited allocation and many City fans that wanted to go found it had sold out.and many seats had been taken up by a Belgian supporters club.

So the club is not at fault for the top comment, we did not sell out so away fans just took advantage, but the arsenal game was the clubs fault it should have distributed the tickets better.

 

[the plasterer]

my gripe is that the 200 belgian fans who came over were not and do not support manchester city, they support kompany and de bruyne, 200 genuine blues have missed out here and thats a fact

 

[RACHACE]

If anybody has emailed somebody at the club with regards the transparency of the away ticket allocation, who did you email? I'm going to send an email too. It'll probably fall on deaf ears but something has to be said in order to at least try to preserve a decent allocation for the away fans that travel independently.

We're having to fight with corporate allocations, touts, points whores, and foreign support too and chances of obtaining away tickets are getting slimmer & slimmer to the point where it'll become unlikely that you'll get a ticket for any away games.

If this carries on I'll end up giving up altogether to be honest.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

That the club no longer cares about the fans' wants and needs is a recurring theme with you. Would you care to point me to a time in the last forty years when it did? I'm all ears.

It's my single biggest gripe with City at present, and it's something that's causing me quite a bit of disillusionment with the club in all honesty. So yeah, it's probably something you'll have heard me bang on about before.

We all want to see a successful City, but I'm not happy for it to be at any cost.

We're becoming more and more a corporate whore sellout clone of the scum with every passing year, and it knocks me sick.

We're the frogs placed in a pan of cold water, unable to appreciate the slow temperature change as it's placed over the stove and we slowly boil alive.

Things have been getting worse for us as supporters for several years now, lots of incremental steps which make things shitter for us.

And we're blind to it because all we see is that City are now a footballing powerhouse, or we passively accept it as part of the trade off with no desire to kick up a stink and seem ungrateful for our great fortune in having such investment placed into the club.

But when will we sit up and say it's gone too far?

- The Platinum scheme double your loyalty points for £50.

- Cup Scheme membership necessary to ensure a ticket to a relevant cup final, with loyalty points alone no longer enough.

- The removal of the word 'loyal' from 'loyal points', to be renamed 'ticket points'.

- The vast expansion of corporate seating into once ordinary areas of the ground, and those people being guaranteed a ticket for any away game or cup final, exempt from the now renamed 'ticket points' criteria.

- An annual average increase of a circa 10% in season ticket renewal prices every season.

- Among the most expensive individual league tickets in the Premier League. With the derby in a few months being just short of £60 as a basic starting price for an adult, the new corporate lite areas being much more.

- £35 membership necessary to buy individual league or cup tickets unless they reach open sale, and if they do you have to pay a percentage more on the basic price as a non 'Cityzen'.

- Large swathes of away tickets for the biggest games of the season being siphoned off to brand new supporters clubs, and brand new bandwagon City fans here for the glory - ahead of the longstanding core support.

Not to mention the general sense of the club enacting a kind of professional disassociated distance from the core support, a good example would be Points of Blue being binned; once an opportunity for the support to engage directly with club officials and discuss issues pertinent to the support, only to be replaced by limited, and often clearly loaded, online surveys.

Where does it end? Where and when will it stop? When will we say enough?

I'm not saying this club was perfect 10 years ago, but I don't think there's been a period in City's recent history where the core support has mattered less than it does today.

We supported the club when they needed it the most, but we're dispensable now. I truly believe that. City are sufficiently glamorous enough a club to attract the new generation of shallow needy cunts in the UK and abroad who would've jumped on the rag bandwagon had they been born ten years earlier.

Our loyalty counts for nothing. There are plenty of people with money to spend who are now willing to take our place, some are doing so already by virtue of having a larger disposable income than the rest of us.

This is the single greatest issue we face as supporters at present, and we're doing fuck all about it. We're even policing dissent and criticism among our own supporters about it.

I think in years to come we'll look back at this period as a turning point, where we sat in the pot, and boiled to death.

Our match crowd in 10 years will be totally alien to the one we used to recognise as City in 2011.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

In my team games, Rapid Bucharest, we have a group of fans from Nottingham Forest who comes quit often. We are very proud of this, we speak to them, drink togheter, just enjoying a football game togheter. Make them feel as confortable as possible.

Do they collectively stick a load of scarves in the air and impede your view of the game?

 

[markblue]

It's my single biggest gripe with City at present, and it's something that's causing me quite a bit of disillusionment with the club in all honesty. So yeah, it's probably something you'll have heard me bang on about before.

We all want to see a successful City, but I'm not happy for it to be at any cost.

We're becoming more and more a corporate whore sellout clone of the scum with every passing year, and it knocks me sick.

We're the frogs placed in a pan of cold water, unable to appreciate the slow temperature change as it's placed over the stove and we slowly boil alive.

Things have been getting worse for us as supporters for several years now, lots of incremental steps which make things shitter for us.

And we're blind to it because all we see is that City are now a footballing powerhouse, or we passively accept it as part of the trade off with no desire to kick up a stink and seem ungrateful for our great fortune in having such investment placed into the club.

But when will we sit up and say it's gone too far?

- The Platinum scheme double your loyalty points for £50.

- Cup Scheme membership necessary to ensure a ticket to a relevant cup final, with loyalty points alone no longer enough.

- The removal of the word 'loyal' from 'loyal points', to be renamed 'ticket points'.

- The vast expansion of corporate seating into once ordinary areas of the ground, and those people being guaranteed a ticket for any away game or cup final, exempt from the now renamed 'ticket points' criteria.

- An annual average increase of a circa 10% in season ticket renewal prices every season.

- Among the most expensive individual league tickets in the Premier League. With the derby in a few months being just short of £60 as a basic starting price for an adult, the new corporate lite areas being much more.

- £35 membership necessary to buy individual league or cup tickets unless they reach open sale, and if they do you have to pay a percentage more on the basic price as a non 'Cityzen'.

- Large swathes of away tickets for the biggest games of the season being siphoned off to brand new supporters clubs, and brand new bandwagon City fans here for the glory - ahead of the longstanding core support.

Not to mention the general sense of the club enacting a kind of professional disassociated distance from the core support, a good example would be Points of Blue being binned; once an opportunity for the support to engage directly with club officials and discuss issues pertinent to the support, only to be replaced by limited, and often clearly loaded, online surveys.

Where does it end? Where and when will it stop? When will we say enough?

I'm not saying this club was perfect 10 years ago, but I don't think there's been a period in City's recent history where the core support has mattered less than it does today.

We supported the club when they needed it the most, but we're dispensable now. I truly believe that. City are sufficiently glamorous enough a club to attract the new generation of shallow needy cunts in the UK and abroad who would've jumped on the rag bandwagon had they been born ten years earlier.

Our loyalty counts for nothing. There are plenty of people with money to spend who are now willing to take our place, some are doing so already by virtue of having a larger disposable income than the rest of us.

This is the single greatest issue we face as supporters at present, and we're doing fuck all about it. We're even policing dissent and criticism among our own supporters about it.

I think in years to come we'll look back at this period as a turning point, where we sat in the pot, and boiled to death.

Our match crowd in 10 years will be totally alien to the one we used to recognise as City in 2011.

+1, completely agree with all of this

 

[Danny Hoekman]

It's my single biggest gripe with City at present, and it's something that's causing me quite a bit of disillusionment with the club in all honesty. So yeah, it's probably something you'll have heard me bang on about before.

We all want to see a successful City, but I'm not happy for it to be at any cost.

We're becoming more and more a corporate whore sellout clone of the scum with every passing year, and it knocks me sick.

We're the frogs placed in a pan of cold water, unable to appreciate the slow temperature change as it's placed over the stove and we slowly boil alive.

Things have been getting worse for us as supporters for several years now, lots of incremental steps which make things shitter for us.

And we're blind to it because all we see is that City are now a footballing powerhouse, or we passively accept it as part of the trade off with no desire to kick up a stink and seem ungrateful for our great fortune in having such investment placed into the club.

But when will we sit up and say it's gone too far?

- The Platinum scheme double your loyalty points for £50.

- Cup Scheme membership necessary to ensure a ticket to a relevant cup final, with loyalty points alone no longer enough.

- The removal of the word 'loyal' from 'loyal points', to be renamed 'ticket points'.

- The vast expansion of corporate seating into once ordinary areas of the ground, and those people being guaranteed a ticket for any away game or cup final, exempt from the now renamed 'ticket points' criteria.

- An annual average increase of a circa 10% in season ticket renewal prices every season.

- Among the most expensive individual league tickets in the Premier League. With the derby in a few months being just short of £60 as a basic starting price for an adult, the new corporate lite areas being much more.

- £35 membership necessary to buy individual league or cup tickets unless they reach open sale, and if they do you have to pay a percentage more on the basic price as a non 'Cityzen'.

- Large swathes of away tickets for the biggest games of the season being siphoned off to brand new supporters clubs, and brand new bandwagon City fans here for the glory - ahead of the longstanding core support.

Not to mention the general sense of the club enacting a kind of professional disassociated distance from the core support, a good example would be Points of Blue being binned; once an opportunity for the support to engage directly with club officials and discuss issues pertinent to the support, only to be replaced by limited, and often clearly loaded, online surveys.

Where does it end? Where and when will it stop? When will we say enough?

I'm not saying this club was perfect 10 years ago, but I don't think there's been a period in City's recent history where the core support has mattered less than it does today.

We supported the club when they needed it the most, but we're dispensable now. I truly believe that. City are sufficiently glamorous enough a club to attract the new generation of shallow needy cunts in the UK and abroad who would've jumped on the rag bandwagon had they been born ten years earlier.

Our loyalty counts for nothing. There are plenty of people with money to spend who are now willing to take our place, some are doing so already by virtue of having a larger disposable income than the rest of us.

This is the single greatest issue we face as supporters at present, and we're doing fuck all about it. We're even policing dissent and criticism among our own supporters about it.

I think in years to come we'll look back at this period as a turning point, where we sat in the pot, and boiled to death.

Our match crowd in 10 years will be totally alien to the one we used to recognise as City in 2011.

Pretty much agree with all of this.

 

[RACHACE]

Well done RickyDunneOwnGoal. Completely agree with you mate. Makes my blood boil thinking about it so I bury my head in the sand and pass on my £50 platinum like a good little customer.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

It's my single biggest gripe with City at present, and it's something that's causing me quite a bit of disillusionment with the club in all honesty. So yeah, it's probably something you'll have heard me bang on about before.

We all want to see a successful City, but I'm not happy for it to be at any cost.

We're becoming more and more a corporate whore sellout clone of the scum with every passing year, and it knocks me sick.

We're the frogs placed in a pan of cold water, unable to appreciate the slow temperature change as it's placed over the stove and we slowly boil alive.

Things have been getting worse for us as supporters for several years now, lots of incremental steps which make things shitter for us.

And we're blind to it because all we see is that City are now a footballing powerhouse, or we passively accept it as part of the trade off with no desire to kick up a stink and seem ungrateful for our great fortune in having such investment placed into the club.

But when will we sit up and say it's gone too far?

- The Platinum scheme double your loyalty points for £50.

- Cup Scheme membership necessary to ensure a ticket to a relevant cup final, with loyalty points alone no longer enough.

- The removal of the word 'loyal' from 'loyal points', to be renamed 'ticket points'.

- The vast expansion of corporate seating into once ordinary areas of the ground, and those people being guaranteed a ticket for any away game or cup final, exempt from the now renamed 'ticket points' criteria.

- An annual average increase of a circa 10% in season ticket renewal prices every season.

- Among the most expensive individual league tickets in the Premier League. With the derby in a few months being just short of £60 as a basic starting price for an adult, the new corporate lite areas being much more.

- £35 membership necessary to buy individual league or cup tickets unless they reach open sale, and if they do you have to pay a percentage more on the basic price as a non 'Cityzen'.

- Large swathes of away tickets for the biggest games of the season being siphoned off to brand new supporters clubs, and brand new bandwagon City fans here for the glory - ahead of the longstanding core support.

Not to mention the general sense of the club enacting a kind of professional disassociated distance from the core support, a good example would be Points of Blue being binned; once an opportunity for the support to engage directly with club officials and discuss issues pertinent to the support, only to be replaced by limited, and often clearly loaded, online surveys.

Where does it end? Where and when will it stop? When will we say enough?

I'm not saying this club was perfect 10 years ago, but I don't think there's been a period in City's recent history where the core support has mattered less than it does today.

We supported the club when they needed it the most, but we're dispensable now. I truly believe that. City are sufficiently glamorous enough a club to attract the new generation of shallow needy cunts in the UK and abroad who would've jumped on the rag bandwagon had they been born ten years earlier.

Our loyalty counts for nothing. There are plenty of people with money to spend who are now willing to take our place, some are doing so already by virtue of having a larger disposable income than the rest of us.

This is the single greatest issue we face as supporters at present, and we're doing fuck all about it. We're even policing dissent and criticism among our own supporters about it.

I think in years to come we'll look back at this period as a turning point, where we sat in the pot, and boiled to death.

Our match crowd in 10 years will be totally alien to the one we used to recognise as City in 2011.

Spot on fella but within 4/5 posts someone will be on to say these thoughts are small minded and typical of a fan who would rather we were shit and not moving with the times.