Benefit Street on Channel 4

[mancityvstoke]

Can any of our older posters enlighten me please...
Has society always had streets like this? I mean over the past 6 decades?
Or has this kind of thing grown over the last 20 years?

last 38 years or so...........gradually worsened attitudes

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

Jesus Christ, you'll try anything to get your bleeding heart point across. Give it a rest.

Did you enjoy it too?

What a fucking sad world we live in when idiotic fucks like yourself confuse common decency with "bleedin heart" liberalism.

And no I wont ever give it a rest fucking ever.

I wish you would. It's beyond parody.

I doubt she 'enjoyed' it in the sense of the word you so tactlessly potrayed, but you know that, and couldn't resist a dig at the expense of your self righteous beliefs.

I cracked one out over amputee porn the other day, what sort of moral plane am I on now?

 

[G-Star Medium Rare]

Mr 50p guy, WTF?

Twiggy from the Royal Family type character?

 

[Kakhaber Tskhadadze K.O.T.A.]

Every one of them smokes, drinks, has a dog, & a 52" TV, ......... It's a Daily Mail wankathon ;-)

 

[Aphex]

White Dee definitely gets it, tits like a cows udder

I like her. She's the don of the street.

I guess there is a comfort for the others that they can rely on her for advice, after society has completely washed their hands of them.

She reminds me of the Oracle, matrix style.

Society washed their hands of them? After the free housing, education, healthcare, social services, spending money etc you mean?

For the record I didn't enjoy it. I found it really sad that some people live like this in this country and I have no idea how we could fix it, if at all.

I agree, some people are perhaps beyond help. But if you have a society that has continuously let this happen and then stops benefits, they are basically washing their hands of them. Its been said many times on here before.

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

Can any of our older posters enlighten me please...
Has society always had streets like this? I mean over the past 6 decades?
Or has this kind of thing grown over the last 20 years?

I'm 47 and yes, there has always been streets/areas like this in my lifetime.

Thatcher's legacy was to make it a lot worse, whole generations of families becoming institutionalised on benefits and crime.

but of course some posters on here will tell you the country needed it to be done.

 

[Aphex]

Did you enjoy it too?

What a fucking sad world we live in when idiotic fucks like yourself confuse common decency with "bleedin heart" liberalism.

And no I wont ever give it a rest fucking ever.

I wish you would. It's beyond parody.

I doubt she 'enjoyed' it in the sense of the word you so tactlessly potrayed, but you know that, and couldn't resist a dig at the expense of your self righteous beliefs.

I cracked one out over amputee porn the other day, what sort of moral plane am I on now?

It depends. Was it just a torso and and a head?<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:45 pm --<br /><br />

That's correct. I 'enjoyed' the fact that none of the so called feckless and scroungers were actually unlikeable. In fact I thought it well done and am looking forward to hearing more of their stories. Maybe it will help those who don't deal with people in poverty to understand that every person has hopes and fears and that the stereotype is often far from the truth.

You will never see any of these people again unless they fall into mental illness or suicide. Empathy is the last priority of these shows.

I'm sure it is. But we'd all be complaining if it wasn't on TV to help us make an informed opinion on a situation.

 

[Ban-jani]

Can any of our older posters enlighten me please...
Has society always had streets like this? I mean over the past 6 decades?
Or has this kind of thing grown over the last 20 years?

I'm 47 and yes, there has always been streets/areas like this in my lifetime.

Thatcher's legacy was to make it a lot worse, whole generations of families becoming institutionalised on benefits and crime.

but of course some posters on here will tell you the country needed it to be done.

As I expected really, I cannot imagine Britain being like this (well on this scale) in the 1950's/60's/70's.

Thanks mate.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

I wish you would. It's beyond parody.

I doubt she 'enjoyed' it in the sense of the word you so tactlessly potrayed, but you know that, and couldn't resist a dig at the expense of your self righteous beliefs.

I cracked one out over amputee porn the other day, what sort of moral plane am I on now?

It depends. Was it just a torso and and a head?

I thought you said without a head then, that becomes something entirely different.

In a more serious point, there will always be people parked on benefits because (other than in a perfect utopia) there will always be a semi-criminal underclass and this is what the rest of us pay for social order. The important thing is to put policy in place to restrict the size of this group, if we can't eliminate it entirely.

 

[Halfpenny]

It's a shame that nowadays we are awash with programmes and reports like this, concentrating on one small group who use the welfare state and then passing it off as the face of 'welfare Britain' or words to that effect. Nowhere do we see programmes focusing on the positive effects of welfare provision, nor do we see any which depict the real poverty of people already in work (the largest expense of the welfare state other than the state pension), rather the token lazy scroungers who don't want to work. Nor do we see the injustices meted out by agencies such as ATOS in denying ill health benefits to those who are genuinely unable to work. The effect? To massage public opinion into supporting the dismantling of the welfare state upon which they may one day genuinely rely.

It's a shame calling programmes like this out to be the divide and rule rubbish they are is dismissed with remarks such as 'bleeding heart liberalism'. Because if anything the increased numbers going to food banks and the like show that there needs to be an expansion in welfare state provision, not a gigantic cut.