Benjamin Mendy - City lose case and Mendy awarded £11m in back pay (p168)

Well here's the rub. We've had people say 'innocent until proven guilty' about Mendy, but then call the women 'lying slags.' But since lying in court is a crime, presumably 'innocent until proven guilty' also applies to them? They are 'innocent' of lying until they've been sentenced by a court for perverting the course of justice or similar. And so that's where we are. Benjamin Mendy didn't rape anyone, and nobody lied about it. Which is why in rape cases, what a court can prove doesn't necessarily correlate with what actually happened, just what can be proven. Either he raped them or they lied about it. And yet the official truth is that he didn't rape them and they didn't lie about it, which is a logical impossibility. The only other possibility is that all women genuinely but wrongly believed they were raped.

Anyway, he's officially not guilty, so good luck to the bloke and hope he can get his life back on track.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Can we stop with this shit?

I was going to say it's a shame that this thread will end up getting locked but arseholes like you make it necessary.
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It's really weird that this one crime seems to make so many people online abandon common sense.

Talk about any other crime that goes to court, and no one would ever argue that a verdict is the same as what actually happened. Everyone knows that sometimes the bad guys walk free, and sometimes the good guys get convicted, and that's the inherent flaw of the justice system but it's the best idea we've come up with. We can understand that the truth and a court verdict are not always the same thing.


But as soon as it comes to rape, a not guilty verdict - no matter the rest of the context of the wider case - results in people proclaiming ther person totally innocent, their accusers branded golddiggers and demands for prison time for false accusers.

And not only that, but there's this weird impression that a verdict clears someone of all wrongdoing, when in any other crime, we can usually discuss rationally how someone might have acted in an awful way, been a scumbag, but not quite satisfied the "beyond a reasonable doubt" threshold.
 
A Saudi club could be all he needs now. albeit not sure what kind of state he is physically, would need to go through some heavy fitness regime if indeed he still want to pursue a football career.

quite a crazy case.

can City get some money as damages? had he had not go through this case we might sell him for 20-30m a year or two ago...

what about him? he missed out on some salary due to the case, also potential bonuses, let alone all the bad media and not mentioning his time served in a prison while not guilty.

probably City not too disappointed that his contract just ran out and we dont really need to deal with him tho dont even know what we would do ith him if he had 1 more year. probably off to a CFG club...

still 50m spent, mostly he was out injured, few great games early on and quite a few bad ones too, then 2-3 years of this legal case. not a success story for the club for sure.

still we could have moved him for 15-20m to recoup some of the fees maybe if he doesnt run into all this crazyness..
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Same, mate.

All I know is these cases are often incredibly difficult to prove and often don't lead to convictions as a result.

But being found not guilty isn't the same as being proven innocent. It's a really complex issue.
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Prosecutions are unlikely in any type of case where the evidence is so flimsy. Even when there is a media witch hunt against the accused.

It’s time for Mendy to move on with his life away from City.
 
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