Benji...

I completley disagree, he was awful but just very lucky. Every assist he made was down to a mistake. 1st was a missed shot, 2nd he missed again and was lucky to hit the post and third he cut his pass to petrov too shot and was again lucky to find tevez. He had a few good moment but was noticeably the wrost player on the pitch.

Agree 100%
 
He did okay but he's still not close to being good enough. As has been said it is quite generous to suggest he created three goals.
 
mcfc391 said:
Captain Oats said:
i thought he was top yesterday. did his job superbly and deserved a goal. Assisted 3 so cant complain.

I completley disagree, he was awful but just very lucky. Every assist he made was down to a mistake. 1st was a missed shot, 2nd he missed again and was lucky to hit the post and third he cut his pass to petrov too shot and was again lucky to find tevez. He had a few good moment but was noticeably the wrost player on the pitch.

Jesus he helped create 3 goals and was unlucky not to score himself, what does it take to make people happy?
 
simmers said:
mcfc391 said:
I completley disagree, he was awful but just very lucky. Every assist he made was down to a mistake. 1st was a missed shot, 2nd he missed again and was lucky to hit the post and third he cut his pass to petrov too shot and was again lucky to find tevez. He had a few good moment but was noticeably the wrost player on the pitch.

Jesus he helped create 3 goals and was unlucky not to score himself, what does it take to make people happy?

I think you mean not good enough to score himself :). I'm not trying to be harsh on him, but it's a fact his ball control was poor and his positioning was way out. I'm happy he created 3 goals, but as described in my previous post, I'm just not happy with how he created them.
 
mcfc391 said:
simmers said:
Jesus he helped create 3 goals and was unlucky not to score himself, what does it take to make people happy?

I think you mean not good enough to score himself :). I'm not trying to be harsh on him, but it's a fact his ball control was poor and his positioning was way out. I'm happy he created 3 goals, but as described in my previous post, I'm just not happy with how he created them.

No I mean he was unlucky not to score when he hit the post. What more could he have done exactly? It was a lot harder than the header Tevez missed which I'm sure you'd all be talking about had he not score a hat trick.
What exactly are you not happy with the way he helped set them up? Does it matter how he does it? Do you remember Shaun Goater? He didn't exactly score scorchers but he scored. No doubt you weren't happy with the way he scored?

We won 4-1, he was involced in 3 of them. If you really have to moan about something, then moan about the only negative of the game which was the soft goal we conceded
 
I would keep him is has Done well in the last 2 games considering how long he has been left out of the team.
Not a Big name star, but hasnt complained about lack of games and come in and got on with the job when asked.
IMO a great back up player
 
If he keeps playing like that then why not.

I think he brings something a little different than Ade who likes to drift a lot, where as Benji occupys centre halfs and drags them around the place, which they dont like.
 
I prefer having a centre-forward who stays central and keeps the centre-backs under pressure. Benjani does that job. I didn't think Tevez and Ade made a good partnership because the pair of them spend too much time away from goal. I'm hoping Santa Cruz can take over the role Benjani played last night when he is fit.
 
simmers said:
mcfc391 said:
I think you mean not good enough to score himself :). I'm not trying to be harsh on him, but it's a fact his ball control was poor and his positioning was way out. I'm happy he created 3 goals, but as described in my previous post, I'm just not happy with how he created them.

No I mean he was unlucky not to score when he hit the post. What more could he have done exactly? It was a lot harder than the header Tevez missed which I'm sure you'd all be talking about had he not score a hat trick.
What exactly are you not happy with the way he helped set them up? Does it matter how he does it? Do you remember Shaun Goater? He didn't exactly score scorchers but he scored. No doubt you weren't happy with the way he scored?

We won 4-1, he was involced in 3 of them. If you really have to moan about something, then moan about the only negative of the game which was the soft goal we conceded


You right it doesn't really matter how we score. The point I'm trying to make is that if he set up 3 goals by luck/mistakes then it won't happen every game. But if we are scoring because of skill and talent then we will score more often than not. I personally don't think he is good enough, do you really see him as the future of Man City even as a squad player? If you had the chance to bring him to the club now would you?
 
masterwig said:
I prefer having a centre-forward who stays central and keeps the centre-backs under pressure. Benjani does that job. I didn't think Tevez and Ade made a good partnership because the pair of them spend too much time away from goal.

this ^

I think benji is superb at what he does ie keeping CB's busy and holding up the ball, a great performance from him, says it all that he started and kept RSC on the bench, his popularity is there for all to see at the club, when he took his seat everyone congratulated him.

If your reading this WELL PLAYED BENJI.
 
masterwig said:
I prefer having a centre-forward who stays central and keeps the centre-backs under pressure. Benjani does that job. I didn't think Tevez and Ade made a good partnership because the pair of them spend too much time away from goal. I'm hoping Santa Cruz can take over the role Benjani played last night when he is fit.

Spot on, i remember the Arsenal fans saying that Adebayor spent too much time on the wing. This has been our problem up front this season, we need a focal point to play off, Benjani stayed central and let Petrov, Tevez and Bellemy buzz around him. Its all about the balance of the team. When i heard Benjani was playing i was a bit annoyed as i really dont rate him but he did a decent job for the team last night and in a way was more involved than Adebayor has been. A fit RSC will do a better job though and if Mancini can mould Adebayor into a more direct central striker who uses his height and strength to better effect then he and Tevez can become a good partnership.
 
You right it doesn't really matter how we score. The point I'm trying to make is that if he set up 3 goals by luck/mistakes then it won't happen every game. But if we are scoring because of skill and talent then we will score more often than not. I personally don't think he is good enough, do you really see him as the future of Man City even as a squad player? If you had the chance to bring him to the club now would you?[/quote]

The point I'm trying to make is why do you feel the need to criticise him when he's played well? Why not judge him after he's played 10-15 games? If he doesn' nothing from now on then you have every right to criticise him
I wouldn't sign him now and I'm not saying he's the answer, but he's played two games in which he scored the winner in one of them and help set 3 up in the other.
 
mancity dan said:
I want to stay at City for the rest of my career...

Thoughts??

Like most of our players ....... i think he realsies that under Mancini it's a bright new dawn for us .

He's now played a couple of games and he looks 'hungry' again ......... although quite how many games he'll get from here on is anyones guess ....... he's a useful player to have around , even with his obvious 'limitations'.
 
Well RSC is injury prone and even Adebayor has been stop start with niggles and the suspension so it's always handy to have another back-up player who is evidently content with his role in the team. If he wants to stay, we might aswell keep him.

Added a physical presence last night and Tevez apart, i thought he was our next best player.

1 goal and 3 assists in 2 games is brilliant. especially since he's been short of match practice for quite a while.
 
I was quite perturbed when I saw the starting lineup and Benjani was in it with Santa Cruz on the bench, I've always thought Benjani was a clumsy footballer who would never be a regular goalscorer. However, after the game I was impressed with what he did, he worked their defence very hard, he held the ball up and linked up play, and he created chances for others. Couldn't have asked much more from him. He still looked fairly clumsy at times but he was very effective. As for a contract extension, I'm not sure that's going to happen.
 
He's making his most of a fair crack of the whip, or spell in the shop window. Did well against a bland Championship side last time out, was involved in some capacity in three goals against a poor Blackburn side last night, looking enthusiastic throughout.

Heard a few Newcastle fans that wouldn't mind bringing him in on the cheap.
 
Work with a Stoke fan and he has said wouldn't mind seeing him there. I feel he could be an invaluable squad player when everyone is fit and play in some cup games to give others a rest...
 
simmers said:
You right it doesn't really matter how we score. The point I'm trying to make is that if he set up 3 goals by luck/mistakes then it won't happen every game. But if we are scoring because of skill and talent then we will score more often than not. I personally don't think he is good enough, do you really see him as the future of Man City even as a squad player? If you had the chance to bring him to the club now would you?

The point I'm trying to make is why do you feel the need to criticise him when he's played well? Why not judge him after he's played 10-15 games? If he doesn' nothing from now on then you have every right to criticise him
I wouldn't sign him now and I'm not saying he's the answer, but he's played two games in which he scored the winner in one of them and help set 3 up in the other.[/quote]

I didn't see all of the first game so I can't comment and last night I don't think he played well. He didn't play any differently to how he has in the past, woeful first touch, poor runs and dreadful position, which unfortunatley isn't good enough. You can repeat 3 assists as many times as you like but it doesn't change that fact he didn't mean any of them. Every single one was by accitdent. You don't become a successfull player by accident. They rest of his play was poor and if you don't believe me I surgest you watch the game again. I haven't come on here to slag him off, I hope he does come good, but from what I've seen last season and this, I can't see it happening.
 
lets be honest here, he just isn t going to around for that long, if he is,he will be superglued to the bench, just not good enough whether he tries or not
 

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