Big Tech censorship | Trump Banned from Twitter

[Hart of the Matter]

Oh ffs, I'm not defending trump or saying he's 'right', I'm just not into the whole lynch-mob mentality thing. That's how we end up with bigoted reality TV stars in the oval office in the first place.

See above. Thanks for restating.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

See above. Thanks for restating.

Thanks for your thanks.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I think I agree with you. I just think there is power in the sight of him being quietly reduced to a non entity, and then receiving justice in a very ordinary way rather than him becoming any sort of martyr. I'm actually surprised no one since November has sought to leverage his debts and misdemeanours in order to buy his silence and quiet exit. Nixon was pardoned by his successor I think.

I think that is still on the table TBH. I could see him resigning. But I doubt those on the other side would make a deal to get him to step down. That might actually be a coup. Those close to Nixon were very worried about “forcing” him to resign. They wanted him to make the decision himself.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Oh ffs, I'm not defending trump or saying he's 'right', I'm just not into the whole lynch-mob mentality thing. That's how we end up with bigoted reality TV stars in the oval office in the first place.

Lynch mob, you say? Shame that phrase used to be a metaphor (after being a very real thing even earlier, of course).

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Lynch mob, you say? Shame that phrase used to be a metaphor (after being a very real thing even earlier, of course).

That’s just a literal metaphor.

Some BLM affiliated person has probably done worse...

 

[Rascal]

If you start with “corporations are inherently bad” then there is no room for debate at all. So you started a thread for a clean forum for your own platform, not to truly discuss the issues, then?

As an anti capitalist i am hardly going to extol the virtues of corporations.

 

[Rascal]

Do I have a right to go into a packed cinema and shout 'fire' even though there isn't one.
Would the police and the Odeon have grounds to prevent this?
Of course they would.
Shit thread and shit narrative that distracts from the real issue of calling out the fascism rising in the west...

It is time for your daily patronising.

Corporatism is one of the bedrocks of fascism. Why on earth do you think I am against corporate power?

Umberto Eco wrote in his 14 common features of fascism

Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology."

This is corporate power, it is the monied elites showing contempt for the weak by ignoring democracy and influencing government for their own ends, not the ends of the people (the weak)

He also wrote

“There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”

This is what the big tech corporations are doing, they are attempting to become the voice of the people, although it can also be argued Trump is doing exactly the same thing, the difference being Trump was elected the Tech companies have no mandate.

Eco also wrote

The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”

This definitely relates to Trump and his follower's and I would argue that the banning of Trump by the big tech corporations feeds that obsession rather than starves that obsession.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

As an anti capitalist i am hardly going to extol the virtues of corporations.

No kidding. Then change the title of thread to "corporations have no virtues." Because that's what you really want to talk about (with yourself).

 

[SWP's back]

It’s a false thread meant to amplify a particular poster’s view of corporate entities as inherently committing malfeasance through their structure and existence.

Bull. Shit.

Yep. He’s a Marxist and would nationalise the tech companies (well and all other companies) but we already know that doesn’t work in practice so he likes to vent on here and is harmless enough.

Anyway, a quick flowchart on censorship.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Yep. He’s a Marxist and would nationalise the tech companies (well and all other companies) but we already know that doesn’t work in practice so he likes to vent on here and is harmless enough.

Anyway, a quick flowchart on censorship.

A Marxist leveraging tech infrastructure built by corporate collectivism. Unless he's stealing everything he uses or owns, he's a hypocrite. I have the same problem with Libertarians. They talk and talk, and then when they log off for the evening, they're right back in the world, taking advantage of what they are lucky enough to access -- whether it's the public roads Libertarians don't want to pay for (because there is no such thing as a "social good") or the microwave Marxists use to cook the macaroni and cheese they subsist on (built and delivered by the corporations they decry).

Marxists and libertarians hate each other, and they never recognize that they are exactly the same. They're puritans (in their own minds, not in action, because they're hypocrites). And you know what Robert Christgau said about puritans: "Revolutionaries tend to be puritans. And the reason revolutionaries start so few revolutions is that puritans are a pain in the ass."