Bitcoin (cryptocurrency)

What I do agree with is the amount of cryptos on the market being too high but in saying that I will stand by what I originally said for the next 12 month pretty much any crypto will rise.

Reality will then set in and it will be survival of the fittest.

I see plenty of people making predictions here as to where it will go and as often goes with these things they are very optimistic, what i don't see is any actual research and fundamented date as to why it should go to a certain specific price.
 
I don't doubt that Damocles is talking a lot of sense and the rumour mill helps drive the prices up or down which in turn contributes to the bubble, but looking at Ripple for example and you can see it could well be of immense use in the real world so it's not unreasonable to think that it could rocket much further in value.

As for Bitcoin, even if you'd bought in when it was valued at $1000 you would now be looking at returns of 15 or 16 times that. Timing is key when jumping into the market but even if you're late to the party, there are opportunities to still make big money (and lose big money of course!)

Ripple will go up. Of course it will.

My problem is not that I'm not smart enough to see that, it's that I'm not smart enough to see when the crash will come and turn it worthless

With an asset as volatile as crypto, which as Scotty points out can crash based on a made up rumour, the price isn't actually linked to anything tangible.

Some guys are in the investment game to make a ton of quick money. Good luck to them, go nuts. I'm in the investment game to not lose money and provide financial independence and I don't believe I'm smart enough to see the crash coming and get out in time. Some of you seem to think you are and good luck to you with it.
 
Ripple will go up. Of course it will.

My problem is not that I'm not smart enough to see that, it's that I'm not smart enough to see when the crash will come and turn it worthless

With an asset as volatile as crypto, which as Scotty points out can crash based on a made up rumour, the price isn't actually linked to anything tangible.

Some guys are in the investment game to make a ton of quick money. Good luck to them, go nuts. I'm in the investment game to not lose money and provide financial independence and I don't believe I'm smart enough to see the crash coming and get out in time. Some of you seem to think you are and good luck to you with it.

I don't disagree mate. I've no idea when the crash will happen. I'm such an unlucky twat anyway that it will probably happen now I've got on board. This is just a sideline for me aside from my pension pot - like you, the money in my SIPP is invested in far less volatile markets than cryptocurrency and it will stay that way.
 
I see plenty of people making predictions here as to where it will go and as often goes with these things they are very optimistic, what i don't see is any actual research and fundamented date as to why it should go to a certain specific price.

People expect the whole crypto market too rise as crypto at the minute isn't really mainstream.

People have also given reason why they expect certain coins to rise like Ripple- Hopefully replacing swift with the banks.
 
Investing for a normal person tends to be full of danger. Wall street is extremely powerfull and able to manipulate and they really love it when they can get ordinary people to buy hot air. People must understand that these games arn't played by fair rules, even in the stock market the big players have significant advantage's over the small, and they will use it to sqeeuze out the gullible.

People have also given reason why they expect certain coins to rise like Ripple- Hopefully replacing swift with the banks.

Not good reason as to justify a certain price. Especially when it would regard a coin used for easy transfer between banks price wouldn't really matter.

Having looked into ripple, basicly they can act as a sort of bank with power to money multiplication, almost as a central bank really. They create a currency of which they control the supply to facilitate transactions and they are able to increase the supply of the currency should more transactions happen with ripple accordingly so as to keep the price stable so to speak.

In the end ripple thus acts as a service provider to the banks while also (supposedly) being a bank itself that can return the value of ripple currency if asked so. Basicly they sell some currency which they control so that the buyers are guaranteed of it's underlying value which Ripple must be able to provide when needed. And the reason why their product is interresting to banks is that it gives them some added value when used for certain transactions. And by the same token even the small user is guaranteed from the underlying value since covered by Ripple and also the banks as long as they trust Ripple.

Thats all well for the product, but the question still is, what price is required here, and furthermore would it hurt if it remained at 1$ all the time? The answer imho is that it shouldn't matter at all. You see the banks that use Ripple as service could just aswell make their transactions with a big volume of 1$ currency ... unless afcourse the supply gets to small for the size of the total of transactions, at which point it's easy for the banks to buy more currency from Ripple as to be able to facilitate even larger transactions.

So, the only reason i guess why they lather let the price fluctuate, is that it's a question "for who does it matter". The banks that use Ripple for ex. would not have the interrest to keep buying more Ripple if they can also facilitate larger transactions by letting the price of Ripple rise.

There are a bucketload of things now to contemplate, just a few point i would think important:

1) Ripple can at any point saturate the market, and could have interrest to do so
2) Ripple currency can become obsolete by an alternative, rendering it withought value
3) Under pressure (say economic downturn) Ripple might be tested for it's abbilety to cover the value of the coin at which point they likely fail because of the nature of fractional reserve banking and the fact that there are no goverment guarantees to bailouts or to cover a minimum value for the accounts.
4) The banks that have bought the current stock of ripple could easily manipulate that stock

There is a very good chance of market manipulation but even more the whole thing going obsolete. Ill tell you who's going to get hurt when it would happen: Not ripple, Not the banks, but the accounts of their customers who have Ripple sitting in their wallet. And if Riplle the company is smart, they start to dump large volume's on the market when the price looks as high as it ever will get, perhaps even dump smaller volume's at several points where the news of other banks addopting it pushes it higher.
 
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Electroneum just announced a new partnership my £96 currently worth $1329 and rising.

I need bitcoin to keep rising so Litecoin shoots up now. Look out for a coin called Edgeless apparently will have some news on the 8th and 16th I believe, I'm in profit so might have a dabble of £100 and see how it gets on.
 
Electroneum just announced a new partnership my £96 currently worth $1329 and rising.

I need bitcoin to keep rising so Litecoin shoots up now. Look out for a coin called Edgeless apparently will have some news on the 8th and 16th I believe, I'm in profit so might have a dabble of £100 and see how it gets on.

How do we buy Electroneum mate? Do we have to use Bitcoin?
 
How do we buy Electroneum mate? Do we have to use Bitcoin?

It is only on one exchange at the minute cyptopia, I invested in them in October before any coins were released. But if you go on Cryptopia you can purchase them on there I think you send bitcoin to the exchange and use that to purchase with. Read up on it though.

Electroneum is aiming to launch a mobile mining app so it will have the biggest market in the industry with the aims of the app making you about £30 a month to cover your phone bill. If it sticks to its promise then stand by. They paid hackerone (Damo will know more about them probably) to test their sites security and it wasn't breached, so that makes it a good proposition too.

Coins are going for 7p at the minute, let the hype die down for a couple of days and then buy as the price will drop abit from traders selling off for quick money. I am in long term 2 years.
 
That's because they're generally elaborate digital pyramid schemes whose price is supported entirely by consumer enthusiasm.

The technology here and the value of it is not reflected in the prices for all of these coins. When this wheel stops turning we're going to see a lot of people lose a lot of money very quickly.

Amen.

For reference, I spent many years working in investment banking. I'm an active investor now. I've been carefully monitoring everything bitcoin and blockchain. In my opinion, unless you are an insider (and I mean one of the ultra elite $100 million dollar guys that have built your own exchange and own original bitcoin), investing is an act of extreme faith and not the assumption of informed risk / reward behavior. Not to say you can't make a fortune off it. But you are much more likely to be one of the people who will be left holding something worthless. I would strongly urge you to not use any funds that you need for your future in this speculation.
 
Cashed out my litecoin this morning, I said the alts would get dumped and people would buy back into Bitcoin and litecoin.
 

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