Bloody Sunday: Soldier F faces murder charges

not quite sure what level of reality we're operating on when we're encouraging turning a blind eye to the crimes of our armed forces.
Not only turning a blind eye, but organised protest in favour of the soldier in question.

There's already some awful evidence on him reading the Saville report, and possibly more to come.

Need to wait until the rest of the facts have come out.
 
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If you read back through the thread you will see that I agree that the security forces should be whiter than white but, in the early days the soldiers were sent in with very little training and put in situations they were not prepared for. You need to understand the state of mind some of these lads were in, seen mates shot or blown up then put on the streets and expected to be ‘normal’ this is the reason things should be left alone. You just can’t put yourself in that situation, days on end with very little sleep, being constantly on edge and jumping at every little sound. The terrorist was happily killing security forces families in Ireland, England and the continent, just think how this would affect some of the soldiers.Later on we had plenty of training and strict guidelines to adhere to and rightly so. many of us still suffer severe PTSD from time in the province luckily I’m not one of them and all this just brings it all back.

I largely agree...but at the time of Bloody Sunday, those accused soldiers werent battle weary war veterans...the paras were sent in because of their reputation....to a civil rights March.

Im glad your time here wasnt as bad as some others...unfortunately that wasnt to be for my dad (RIP) and my step dad who is now suffering from it...whilst still living here. They were in the UDR / RIR so they didnt get to go "home" after a tour. They had live right in the middle of it, in civilian housing areas. They werent on camp.
Although i thankfully never joined up, i still have stark memories of what happened here....i still remember that squaddie pointing his gun at me and laughing as i walked to primary school.
 
I largely agree...but at the time of Bloody Sunday, those accused soldiers werent battle weary war veterans...the paras were sent in because of their reputation....to a civil rights March.

Im glad your time here wasnt as bad as some others...unfortunately that wasnt to be for my dad (RIP) and my step dad who is now suffering from it...whilst still living here. They were in the UDR / RIR so they didnt get to go "home" after a tour. They had live right in the middle of it, in civilian housing areas. They werent on camp.
Although i thankfully never joined up, i still have stark memories of what happened here....i still remember that squaddie pointing his gun at me and laughing as i walked to primary school.

Definitely the wrong people to be sent in at that time and that’s my main point, prosecution should be for the fools that sent shock troops in
 
That is some crock of shit I’m afraid fella.

If it's a 'crock of shit' as you say, then let's see if you agree if I post the opposite.

Whether the atrocities committed by both sides should have been swept under the carpet as part of the agreement, is an argument, but as it seems we are prosecuting this bloke, then we should condone his actions.

Is that what I should have said ?

I think that if our military is to be held in high esteem, then the standards must be comparable to the standards of terrorists

Is that what I should have said ?


Therefore, imo, this & any similar acts, should not be punished, because we find it unacceptable, but only as as part of tit for tat prosecutions.

Is that what I should have said ?


Not because we support terrorism & want justice for them, quite the opposite, because we don't want to show the world that we are above those kind of people, we don't want justice for the general public, & we don't expect better conduct from our forces, than that of the army of a tinpot dictator or a bunch of gangsters.

Is that what I should have said ?
 
Those who "walked free" were caught, tried, prosecuted and locked up...they have since been released on licence. They have faced justice.

These soldiers havent.

Do i think that those "others" who committed murder, and other serious crimes, during the troubles should be prosecuted? Of course i do. And if you feel that strongly about it, start a campaign...just like the poor families of those innocent children did.
You have omitted the fact that around 200 terrorists were sent amnesty letters whilst on the run.
 
Yep, isnt it disgusting that thats what it takes for the government to listen?

And by let em out, we as a country voted overwhelmingly, by referendum that we were prepared to let those prosecuted people out on licence in order to ensure peace after 30 years of murder and violence. Those let out on licence were fighting for the "Irish Cause" as well for the British Crown.

Drawing a line in the sand is something I understand but moving it for some victims families but not others I don’t(unless you have a campaign obviously lol)

You either go after all the murderers or you don’t go after any.
 

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