Bluemoon has gone to the dogs

[Kazzydeyna]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no).
- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no.
- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get
into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).
- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him).
- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room?
- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games
into his city career

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.
- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances)
- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him?

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we
must keep him"
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[Balti]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no).
- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no.
- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get
into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).
- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him).
- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room?
- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games
into his city career

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.
- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances)
- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him?

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we
must keep him"
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All perfectly fair and reasonable imo.

 

[BingoBango]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no).
- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no.
- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get
into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).
- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him).
- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room?
- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games
into his city career

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.
- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances)
- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him?

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we
must keep him"
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In response:

- do you think he cares for the club? This is where I have concerns, it appears to be more ambivalence than not caring. But then the same can be said of many players

- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca?
Again, this makes me a little uncomfortable, but equally no footballer is going to come out and say 'Barca? Fuck that shit'. Some will call for a statement of commitment to City of course, which is perfectly fair

- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).

- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him). Assuming that he has an 'attitude', managers around the world put up with more awkward and vocal agitators of lesser ability than Robbie. I don't see why not.

- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room? All of the evidence coming out of the dressing room suggests he is well-liked and a positive influence among the players

- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? Of course, footballers aren't robots - especially when they have just come back from a pretty serious injury

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? No.

- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? While I can sympathise with some of the earlier points, I really don't see this suggestion holding much value. Last season, the team would have been several places in the table worse off without Robbie. Take away his goals in the league, and we would have lost or drawn more than a few (e.g. Blackburn away). This season we've seen very little because of a distinct lack of playing time and injury - I can't see how it's in anyone's interests to write off a player of his undoubted talent so soon, particularly when he produced the goods last year in an arguably weaker team.

 

[twinkletoes]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no).
- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no.
- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get
into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).
- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him).
- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room?
- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games
into his city career

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.
- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances)
- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him?

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we
must keep him"
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All perfectly fair and reasonable imo.

At last some clarity rising out of all the bullshit.

 

[BurnCK]

I think the fact that Xavi and Puyol made a point of asking Guardiola not to sign Robinho for Barcelona speaks volumes....but I guess they must have some sort of agenda against him too.

 

[franksinatra]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no).

Probably not like a fan would but do I think he has an affection for the club? Yes, his comments have suggested this, when I have actually heard him speak rather than be quoted by some foreign radio station, or the british press which have a very anti-City agenda. In fairness there is quite a few players at the club who are playing to improve there careers and not for the love of the sky blue jersey...Like at every club Robinho is no different.

- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no.

Is it acceptable Tevez keeps saying how he would of stayed at OT given the chance repeatedly? Or players allegedly storming in to see the management after Hughes was sacked? Probably not, why single Robinho out?

- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get
into the game and bring his teammates into it as well).

He will never win tackles or headers and its ridiculous to say he doesn't care due to this. If anyone has watched a brazil game he doesn't fly into tackles for them either. All players are different, Robinho is type of player you get the best out of isolated against a defender in the last third of the field. As a team we didn't get the best out of him away from home and yes his performances suffered. In fairness last season the whole team was shocking away from home, West Brom was an example where neither robinho or elano played and we were still dreadful.

- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him).

I dont know about his attitude. When he scored against Scunthorpe all the players ran over to embrace him and on the christmas video he seemed very popular with the other players. So they don't have a problem with him and know him a lot better as an individual than any fan.

- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room?

See above comments. If he is such a problem why did so many of the team celebrate his goal with him?

- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games
into his city career

Not played well since returning from injury although, pre-mancini our best run was at the start of the season when Robinho was playing regularly. Had a good goal disallowed at Palace, and played well at Blackburn.
- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.

I doubt he is although I don't know. maybe if I believed everything the press wrote maybe I would think the same. They have an anti-city agenda and as they like to knock us for our spendingthey use robinho as an example or our excess. As a City player he deserves our support, he has never slagged us off as a club and until that happens I wont slag him off also.

- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances)

Top scorer last seaon and with quite a few assists also. Last season we finished mid-table and yet were one of the top scorers. Robinho played a huge part in this, when you consider we were very short upfront relying on Caicedo etc.[/b]

- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him

Top scorer last season. If we can get the best out of him he woukld be a tremendous asset. You don't become a bad player over night.

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we
must keep him"
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[bluem0ng]

I agree completely with this thread. Most of the criticism of Robinho is a joke.

According to the papers Robbie was pathetic in yesterday's game whereas Petrov was brilliant. What a load of shit that is.

 

[bluem0ng]

I think the fact that Xavi and Puyol made a point of asking Guardiola not to sign Robinho for Barcelona speaks volumes....but I guess they must have some sort of agenda against him too.

What a load of bollocks, like you would know if that;s true. You're one of the worst on here for an agenda against Robinho.

You'll be popping the champagne tonight before selecting your next boo-boy target.

Fuck off you raving nobhead

 

[BurnCK]

I think the fact that Xavi and Puyol made a point of asking Guardiola not to sign Robinho for Barcelona speaks volumes....but I guess they must have some sort of agenda against him too.

What a load of bollocks, like you would know if that;s true. You're one of the worst on here for an agenda against Robinho.

You'll be popping the champagne tonight before selecting your next boo-boy target.

Fuck off you raving nobhead

Fuck off back to your fantasy land where everything is rosey and Robinho is the worlds greatest, you prick !! My only agenda is getting some of your heads out of your arses !!

 

[GStar]

Okay. Trying to be rational:

- do you think he cares for the club? Yes or no. (I vote no). I agree. I'd also say the same about Tevez, Bellemy and Given though
- do you find it acceptable that a 32.5mil signing should spend so much time whoring himself to barca? Yes or no. I vote no. I don't read the papers and i don't know how they do it in Brazil (thier culture)... i don't know what role A. Our Board B. Our Manager and C. His Agent played in any stirring either
- do you think his level of commitment, particularly but not exclusively in away games, is good enough. Yes or no? I vote no. (and I'm not talking about tackling back and running around a lot -I could do that and I'm shite- I'm talking about looking like he wants to get into the game and bring his teammates into it as well). Harder one this, i think when he's on the ball he always looking for options and outlets. I take less notice on the emphasis put on his body language etc, not every needs to show everyone thier giving 100% so obviously. Differrent roles, differnet attitudes etc are equally effective for differnet players
- do you think any of the worlds top managers would put up with his attitude? And bear in mind we ALL want to see city become a top club. (I'm talking about how he is at city. Obviously he is performing for brazil so dunga will probably be quite happy with him). Madrid didn't, We look like we won't. Its a good point. I'd hope we had the management team here to keep any kind of attitude in check, its the sign of a great management team. perhaps Robinho is beyond help, ive no idea
- do you think someone who CLEARLY doesn't want to be here (and in my opinion at least believes he is doing us a favour by being here) is adding value in the dressing room? I don;t think it is clear... look at Robbie in the Sylvinho interview, the goal celebration yesterday, anytime he's palying football he's generally happy, he seems to always enjoy training and i think his talent and experience with Madrid does add to the dressing room
- do you think it is acceptable to have a few bad games or even a run of poor form no matter how much you are worth? I do hence I never got on tevez's back but robinho has not looked like a player since about half a dozen games into his city career agreed about allowed to have a bad run, disagree with Robinho's performances. People seem to be too quick to jump in with financial figures, when really Robinho is just one part of an 11 piece puzzle. He has a lot of improvement to do but if he got us 13-15 goals a season playing badly i wouldn't mind too much

- is he a wanker like I've called him several times? On reflection probBly not. Does he behave like one A LOT?? I vote yes.
- given his level of performance over the last 18 months would the team be worse off without him? I think not. (as I cannot find any sign of his wanting to improve his performances) I'd say very likely we would, any team can use in some capacity a player of his undoubted talent, only Ronaldo scored more league goals last year and Robinho apparently didn't perform for 20+ games last season
- if he'd signed for Chelsea instead and performed like this would we all be clamouring to sign him now? Definitely not so why clamour to keep him? Probably, its different when a palyer is yours, you tend to take him for granted and focus on the extremes, much easier to be balacned when you're on the outside looking in

Apolgies for the rag accusation, that was childish but I get annoyed when peoples reason for keeping with him appears to be along the lines of "he's Brazilian and expensive so we must keep him" No worries mate, although if i can just add, those are deffinately not the reasons i'd put forward for keeping Robinho! :)
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