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Where was Karl-Heinz Shitface when Hoffenheim climbed through the leagues on the back of wealthy owners?? No fucking where!
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bayern blade
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MCC said:Where was Karl-Heinz Shitface when Hoffenheim climbed through the leagues on the back of wealthy owners?? No fucking where!
Hoffenheim were indeed financed by their owner. However A - He has refused to try to buy his way to the title ala Jack Walker at Blackburn, having said that getting them to the BL was his intention then they have to sink or swim and B He is after all a lifelong fan of the club who has even played for their old boys team in the lower leagues.
He has also poured millions into other sports and charities in his own city.
Rather different to being bought as a plaything by a foreign billionaire I think.
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A plaything with the capacity to out earn Bayern very quickly.....bayern blade said:MCC said:Where was Karl-Heinz Shitface when Hoffenheim climbed through the leagues on the back of wealthy owners?? No fucking where!
Hoffenheim were indeed financed by their owner. However A - He has refused to try to buy his way to the title ala Jack Walker at Blackburn, having said that getting them to the BL was his intention then they have to sink or swim and B He is after all a lifelong fan of the club who has even played for their old boys team in the lower leagues.
He has also poured millions into other sports and charities in his own city.
Rather different to being bought as a plaything by a foreign billionaire I think.
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I see, so you want to impose restrictions on how a company trades within a free market economy, just for the sake of some notion of fairness? That to me sounds stereotypically German control freakery.
At the end of the day, football was, is and always will be a business as people make money from it. Any notion of halcyon days of 'jumpers for goalposts and Fritz and Tommy having a kick about in the trenches in between shelling fuck out of each other" is best left in the era it came from.
Since 1955 when UEFA introduce the Champions Cup, this was the inevitable outcome. I won't even begin to bore you with how the rags demanded no English club took part in the competition, that is until they won the league and qualified of course.
The very essence of FIFA, UEFA, this big business is to make money and to protect and serve the members who provide most revenue.
Competition has NEVER been fair. Competition has NEVER been played on a level playing field. There are always extraordinary results, but historically, if we look at every European top league, the trophies are shared traditionally amongst a handful of clubs who have spent to accumulate the best players etc.
MCFC were the last English club to win the top flight English league with a team of exclusively English players.
That was in 1967-68.
In Scotland, Celtic won the European Cup with a team of players who were born within a 5 mile radius of Celtic Park.
That was in 1967.
Do you honestly reckon anything like that will ever be achieved ever again by any club in Europe? Do you honestly think that FFP (despite the infinite loopholes) will actually help enable clubs to be able to repeat feats like those mentioned above?
Seriously mate, we can all be one eyed, passionate and dedicated to our club, but to think football is some noble pursuit of pure, gentlemanly conduct, sportsmanship, honour, dignity and pride then you really are sadly, sadly mistaken. In fact, I'd go as far as to say you are alarmingly naive.
At the end of the day, football was, is and always will be a business as people make money from it. Any notion of halcyon days of 'jumpers for goalposts and Fritz and Tommy having a kick about in the trenches in between shelling fuck out of each other" is best left in the era it came from.
Since 1955 when UEFA introduce the Champions Cup, this was the inevitable outcome. I won't even begin to bore you with how the rags demanded no English club took part in the competition, that is until they won the league and qualified of course.
The very essence of FIFA, UEFA, this big business is to make money and to protect and serve the members who provide most revenue.
Competition has NEVER been fair. Competition has NEVER been played on a level playing field. There are always extraordinary results, but historically, if we look at every European top league, the trophies are shared traditionally amongst a handful of clubs who have spent to accumulate the best players etc.
MCFC were the last English club to win the top flight English league with a team of exclusively English players.
That was in 1967-68.
In Scotland, Celtic won the European Cup with a team of players who were born within a 5 mile radius of Celtic Park.
That was in 1967.
Do you honestly reckon anything like that will ever be achieved ever again by any club in Europe? Do you honestly think that FFP (despite the infinite loopholes) will actually help enable clubs to be able to repeat feats like those mentioned above?
Seriously mate, we can all be one eyed, passionate and dedicated to our club, but to think football is some noble pursuit of pure, gentlemanly conduct, sportsmanship, honour, dignity and pride then you really are sadly, sadly mistaken. In fact, I'd go as far as to say you are alarmingly naive.
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Who the fuck are you, Lord haw haw ?bayern blade said:MCC said:Where was Karl-Heinz Shitface when Hoffenheim climbed through the leagues on the back of wealthy owners?? No fucking where!
Hoffenheim were indeed financed by their owner. However A - He has refused to try to buy his way to the title ala Jack Walker at Blackburn, having said that getting them to the BL was his intention then they have to sink or swim and B He is after all a lifelong fan of the club who has even played for their old boys team in the lower leagues.
He has also poured millions into other sports and charities in his own city.
Rather different to being bought as a plaything by a foreign billionaire I think.
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That guy at Hoffenheim is (officially) not the owner of the club. And they are losing money each season
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Sounds rather like what Sheikh Mansour is doing for Manchester to me. So what's the difference?bayern blade said:MCC said:Where was Karl-Heinz Shitface when Hoffenheim climbed through the leagues on the back of wealthy owners?? No fucking where!
Hoffenheim were indeed financed by their owner. However A - He has refused to try to buy his way to the title ala Jack Walker at Blackburn, having said that getting them to the BL was his intention then they have to sink or swim and B He is after all a lifelong fan of the club who has even played for their old boys team in the lower leagues.
He has also poured millions into other sports and charities in his own city.
Rather different to being bought as a plaything by a foreign billionaire I think.
Is it coz I is black?
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strongbowholic said:Mr Bayern Blade....Bayern executives, along with Platini, de Laurentiis of Napoli, Arsen Wenger, Ian Ayre (Liverpool executive) and countless others have taken pot shots at City and what they are doing without really being armed with the facts.
City have been chronically mismanaged at a commercial/executive level for nearly 40 years. The majority of the club from facilities to staff to players have been hugely underfunded in the main, barring a few vanity purchases from various psychotic and megalomaniacal chairmen.
We now have a fantastic owner who has accelerated a phase of purchasing just to bring us up to scratch with what a Premier team that can challenge for trophies should look like. Further investment has been made on training facilities - including the current project of building a world class academy based on the best there is out there. There has been significant investment in one of the most run down areas of Manchester with more to follow. Commercial deals are seeing inward investment into Manchester City - both FC and the city itself.
Over the coming years (see Swiss Ramble blog for details on how we can likely achieve FFP) you will see a slow down in player purchase, with maybe the odd big signing here and there if a valuable proposition comes to the market.
There is a very clear, well defined and currently fabulously well executed 10 year project plan in place to turn what was once the biggest basket case in English top flight football into a genuinely world class, self-sufficient football club.
The annoyance (speaking of believing all you read in the press), is that the talking heads and rent-a-quotes pay scant attention to the FACTS of what City are, what City are about and prefer instead to make cheap comments, soundbites and headlines.
Our owner is not going away anytime soon. He will see this project through to completion. What happens after that, who knows? We are debt free (he has converted debt to equity). We are aiming to be self sufficient. All I know is whether he keeps us or sells us, he will leave us in fantastic shape with a legacy few chairmen/club owners could ever wish to achieve.
I enjoy the debate. I enjoy the banter. But the ill-informed nonsense spoken by those with most to fear (ie a successful City side capable of usurping their spot in the firmament) speaks more of the arrogance of their clubs and of UEFA than it does of what City are really doing in the game.
In closing, watch this space. We are noted for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory so it's not beyond the realms of possibility it could all go pear shaped. But don't let anyone hate us for it. No one has a right or entitlement in football, but I believe City should enjoy their day in the sun as we have suffered so much humiliation, indignation and downright shambolic management over the last 40 years to have earned a shot at it.
Let the rollercoaster keep rolling.
Peace brother man.
The truth is in here!! Bayern fans and others should read this and learn, for that matter so should the likes of Rummenigge, Hoeness, Platini et al.
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Gaylord du Bois said:Who the fuck are you, Lord haw haw ?
No. Who the fuck are you Gaylord ?
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SWP's back said:A plaything with the capacity to out earn Bayern very quickly.....
I agree. We can't fight that sort of money but we are fine as we are. We'll do alright.
As long as you are happy with your situation and we are happy with ours thats fine.