Bobby

[The Future's Blue]

How can anyone who hasn't been managed by the people mentioned offer any opinion about "man management"?

If you have even the slightest understanding of personality types you would know that people fall into one of several(16) (depends on who's theory you prefer but myers briggs is a good place to start) personality types, each of whom responds differently to different types of management. A manager will appeal to each of those types differently so one person may find them to be an excellent "man manager" whereas the next may think them terrible. In business there is a tendency to opt for situational management where one treats each individually differently depending on their type but in the military this is often considered impractical and the more traditional lead from the front "follow me men" style is more successful.

The only way to judge a football manager is by the teams results and at the moment i think Bob is second in terms of trophies and top 5 in win %.

As for his man management, I have no idea but he has nice hair!

This thread is not about 'Man Management' but has been turned into such.

 

[andyhinch]

For me KK just loved the football we played, thought I'd better say

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Howard Kendall. Sven. Tony book. Malcolm Allison.

There are a few for starters.

Can I ask how many trophies the above four managers won? Considering their man management skills were so amazing?

In your own time.

Doesn't matter mate, Mancini had shit loads of money so winning trophies was a foregone conclusion.

Unlike Big Mal who crippled us with an open cheque book.

 

[citytill1die84]

Mancini followed by big Joe Royal and Kevin Keegan the football Keegan played when we won the Championship was awesome.

 

[Barcon]

For me KK just loved the football we played, thought I'd better say

Gotta agree with that. The football we played under king kev was great, but surely you were around during the Mercer/Allison years.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Haha,about right......

He's shocking,treats none favourites like they dont exist,he's stubborn as fuck,public displays of player discontent and whinges like a baby when he doesn't get his own way.

Can you list me the City managers whose man management was better than Mancini please.

Howard Kendall. Sven. Tony book. Malcolm Allison.

There are a few for starters.

Three good choices DD, I'll grant you that ;-)

You've put your strongest one first. I think Kendall was a fantastic man manager. His transformation of City in a few short months ranks up there alongside what he achieved at Everton imo. I wonder if he regrets leaving when he did? It is a shame his career ended up where it did. I saw him on a train a few years ago. It was a sorry sight. The booze appeared to have really taken its toll.

Sven's man management was surely exposed in the second half of that season culminating in that disaster at 'Boro. Surely a hallmark of getting the most out of people is maintaining momentum and he conspicuously failed in that regard. A poor choice. Horton would have been a better pick.

Tony Book is an interesting one. He built a great, and I mean great, City team and we famously finished second in 1977 and (less famously) fourth in 1978, but the following season we fell away (partly because of our UEFA Cup run) and I wonder if he was a bit close to the players on a personal level to get the best out of them. Respect is more important that popularity in motivating subordinates imo. Also he never managed (other than in a caretaker capacity) again, which surely places too many question marks over his man management capabilities.

Big Mal, I imagine, was great at motivating some, but equally adept at alienating others in equal numbers. He unnecessarily got rid of a lot of experienced players and promoted a lot of youngsters. Surely a great man manager would have worked with some of the established stars - egos if you will - and got the most out of them. Watson, Owen and Barnes would surely have responded to a more skillful hand than he was willing to offer.


I certainly feel Mancini's man management stands up to scrutiny against Sven and Big Mal on that list in addition to most of the other post war managers. I don't think its is strongest suit, but to suggest it compares poorly, which could imply he is worse than Ball, Clarke, Machin, Pearce etc, is disingenuous imo.

 

[andyhinch]

For me KK just loved the football we played, thought I'd better say

Gotta agree with that. The football we played under king kev was great, but surely you were around during the Mercer/Allison years.

If he had are money it would of been interesting

 

[The Flash]

Best manager in my lifetime? Roberto Mancini.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Same time tomorrow then - up for discussion - his Powerpoint Presentations, are they as good as Horton's?

 

[waspish]

Haha,about right......

He's shocking,treats none favourites like they dont exist,he's stubborn as fuck,public displays of player discontent and whinges like a baby when he doesn't get his own way.

Can you list me the City managers whose man management was better than Mancini please.

Howard Kendall. Sven. Tony book. Malcolm Allison.

There are a few for starters.

Haha Howard Kendal Really? have a read of Paul lakes book you'll read his style of man management was a piss up down the pub...