Bondi terror attack

Funny how everyone is blaming Netanyahu but no one is blaming them isn't it?

Were 9/11, 7/7 and the Arena bombing on Netanyahu?
They are blaming him for making it worse/increasing the chances of more incidents. But you know that don't you? Why do you insist on being dishonest on this subject? Its pretty insulting tbh. Pretty much everyone has commented on how appalling this incident is. The loss of innocent lives.
 
I don't know about that. Look at how many conspiracy theories thrive today despite everyone having access to all of the world's knowledge in their pocket. Some people are just thick.
There was an excuse when the masses were largely uneducated... They were unconsciously incompetent so the church exploited the situation... The moment that the claims and counterclaims of religion were proven to be BS then you'd imagine that the followers of said religion would call out the words of "their" book.. But not a chance, they were (are) so indoctrinated that they assume that there is a "grander plan"... Religions are a complete hoax IMHO but as long as "believers" don't affect the way I live my life I couldn't give a toss what they believe in....

Until you start killing in the name of your God... then I'll take offence
 
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What part of the Holocaust was caused by the actions of the Israeli government? There's been security around Jewish institutions for many years now due to antisemitic incidents.

As big a prick as Netanyahu and some of the lunatics around him are, that's just a convenient excuse for those who would have to find another excuse if they couldn't use that one.
Correct. Hamas for example have committed to kill all Jews wherever they are in the world, they want to start with wiping out the Israeli Jews as a first step. If Israel ceased to exist and the Jews left that region forever, there would be still be fanatics who want to find them and kill them. Hitler was a catholic so this isn’t just a radical Islam thing.
 
The thing is, I could pick up the Bible tonight (not that I’ve got one) and spend the whole night picking out passages that instruct me to kill hearthens and unbelievers.

Even Jesus supposedly said and it says it in the Bible, ‘Now where are my enemies who didn't want me to be king? Bring them here and kill them before me’.

All the Abrahamic mythologies need reformation, secularisation and modernisation. They’re all utterly out of date in the modern world.

The bad thing about Islam and the Quran is that it’s never been through this before so, despite being the newest of the Abrahamic mythologies, it’s even more out of date than Christianity is.
They are BUT the growing number of radicals want the "modern" world to take a few paces back and live under laws from the middle ages.... They're being allowed to do just that by our elected leaders who are too scared to call them out
 
He does and he must know of the increased chances of action against innocent Jews because of his actions, but he's a **** and there are plenty about from different sides so we are back to this.



We have one poster deflecting already and he's an intelligent guy, what hope is there?
No hope. He's now on record stating people think the murder of Jews is excusable because of the actions of Isreal. When not one person has said that. No-one on any thread has blamed any Jew for the Israeli goverments Genocide.
 
No hope. He's now on record stating people think the murder of Jews is excusable because of the actions of Isreal. When not one person has said that. No-one on any thread has blamed any Jew for the Israeli goverments Genocide.
Unfortunately he's part of the problem, its how the Netanyahu's of this world get away with it, they pray on peoples emotional tribalism and fears.
No doubt some from the IDF will have extra vigour now in their inhumane cruelty and round and round we go.
 
I've still got the bible I've was given when leaving school, can't say I've read it all or any of it. not sure any normal human being thinks I can kill someone cause a book says it's ok.
No normal human would. But every city, town, village and hamlet in the world has at least one idiot.
 
Correct. Hamas for example have committed to kill all Jews wherever they are in the world, they want to start with wiping out the Israeli Jews as a first step. If Israel ceased to exist and the Jews left that region forever, there would be still be fanatics who want to find them and kill them. Hitler was a catholic so this isn’t just a radical Islam thing.
Until the formation of Israel and the subsequent wars, antisemitism was largely a European, Christian-led thing. Not that Jews as a religious minority weren't discriminated against, and there weren't pockets of explicit antisemitism in certain places, but by the standards of the time, they were arguably treated far better in the Islamic world than in Europe. For the most part, Islam wasn't preaching against Jews in the same way that Christianity was at the time. Then the Christian west basically established a new country, resulting in a bunch of wars, and everything changed. Add to this various Islamist revolutions in the Arab world, and you've got the perfect recipe for the Muslim world now being the world leaders in antisemitism.
 
But I'm not, and nor are my little granddaughters. Yet people seem to think we are part of the problem. And people who seem to think the murder of Jews is excusable because of the actions of Israel are just as bad as those who think it's ok to murder innocent Gazans because of the actions of Hamas.

People are making excuses for antisemitism.


For me the murder of anyone is unacceptable. And what makes me sick is that the the people that pay that price are so often the innocents that have done fuck all to deserve their fate.

Also unacceptable for me, is that a community has to live in fear of these types of attacks.

Truly horrible.
 
They are blaming him for making it worse/increasing the chances of more incidents. But you know that don't you? Why do you insist on being dishonest on this subject? Its pretty insulting tbh. Pretty much everyone has commented on how appalling this incident is. The loss of innocent lives.
Let's be clear. This horrible incident is the fault of the twisted cunts who carried it out. No one else.
 
Official figures state that Israel has killed 65,000 Palestinians in the last two years. Estimates are significantly higher.
Human Rights Watch, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International, and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention all state that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine.
This has a catastrophic global impact.
It does not excuse the killing of innocent people, just as Israel should not be excused for killing innocent people, but it does lead to resentment, naturally so. The resentment should be directed towards Netanyahu and the soldiers carrying out his instructions, not Jewish people globally who, like everyone else, wish to live in peace. Equally, the actions of two terrorists should not lead to the condemnation of Muslims across the globe, for they too wish to live in peace.
And that should be the final word and the thread closed. Imho, that is an excellent post
 
Funny how everyone is blaming Netanyahu but no one is blaming them isn't it?

Were 9/11, 7/7 and the Arena bombing on Netanyahu?
It seems to be the unspoken thing here. A large number of terrorist attacks, particularly in Europe, carried out over the last few years have been carried out by Islamic extremists. The Israeli government and the war in Gaza, were nothing to do with a lot of them as well. It’s lunatics slaughtering innocent people

There is a serious issue with extreme violence and murder around that particular group(extreme islamists) right now, that needs sorting out. It’s becoming common to have a terrorist attack every month now!
 
Let's be clear. This horrible incident is the fault of the twisted cunts who carried it out. No one else.
You are doing it again. No one has justified their actions, no one has said antisemitism will go away when Netanyahu does, that is your deflection. Just answer this simple question

Is it fair to say Netanyahu and his actions have made attacks on Jewish people more likely or do you believe now and in the future no family member of a dead Palestinian may turn to terrorism against innocent jews and anyone watching the events in gaza unfold will not decide to carry out an attack based on the atrocities they have seen.
 
It seems to be the unspoken thing here. A large number of terrorist attacks, particularly in Europe, carried out over the last few years have been carried out by Islamic extremists. The Israeli government and the war in Gaza, were nothing to do with a lot of them as well. It’s lunatics slaughtering innocent people

There is a serious issue with extreme violence and murder around that particular group(extreme islamists) right now, that needs sorting out. It’s becoming common to have a terrorist attack every month now!
It might be a matter of language, of course, but why is it a war in Gaza, but terror attacks by Islamic extremists? I note that the Daily Mail have avoided describing the hero of today as a Muslim store owner, but you can be certain they will describe the attackers by their faith.

It isn't a war, not by any normal definition of such, it is a genocide, as described by a large number of humanitarian organisations. It has claimed 65,000 Palestinian lives in 2 years, with many more buried under the rubble. The attacks on Palestine and the people of Gaza are as much terror attacks as any other. Both need condemning.

Imagine if we were supplying weapons and training to terror cells to carry out their atrocities. Imagine how this feels to the people of Palestine and to people who share their faith.

Terror attacks are appalling, and they are designed to create terror for political ends.
Bombing hospitals and schools and infrastructure is exactly the same.

We must arrive at a situation where we understand the consequences of our foreign policy AND condemn all killing.
 
These two gunmen are as bad as the worst IDF soldiers.

They’ve murdered innocent, defenceless children.

Their actions will now lead to an increase in hate towards peaceful Muslims. Absolute dicks.
All true.
The benefit of a humanitarian perspective, especially if you are an atheist, is that you see that killing is wrong. Faith does not enter the equation. Sides do not matter.
I condemn the attackers today. I condemn the actions of the Israeli government and the IDF.
 
You could have just the one religion in the world and ther would sadly still be wars over it :( god i reallý do hate the world we live in .. ........... just one sick planet now ........... every religion practices peace and yet we have this shite
 

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