Bournemouth takeover

domalino said:
I think it’s lazy to lump all the Americans in together as a block. There Glazers and Kroenke have a lot of common ground but they’re nothing like Boehly or Wes Edens.

There’s been a lot of big votes in the last 4/5 years and the the US owners have never acted as a bloc.
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United Liverpool Arsenal Spurs and Burnley all put pen to paper together in the letter to CAS (along with 4 other non-American clubs).

United Liverpool and Arsenal were the main three clubs from this country who worked towards the set-up of the Super League.

And they are all very pally with each other.

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All very anti-City and anti-Emirati.
 
Maybe the reason American owners and fans are interested in the Prem is precisely because it’s NOT like American sports.

Balanced schedule, two hour matches, no stop/start breaks, excitement at both ends of the table not just the top as the season goes on, extra money for actually making “playoffs” (next season’s CL is “the playoffs” — or the “payoff” if you like) and already-established fanbases who fill grounds and provide atmosphere (anyone watched a Tampa Bay Rays baseball game recently?), Cups to bring revenue opportunities and glories to smaller sides.

That’s why that All-Star game comment was so fucking dumb (as I wrote on the other thread) and everyone’s reaction so predictable — it’s because NO ONE wants to make the Prem “American” and Boehly should have known that before he opened his mouth without thinking.

Now having said that — owners would like to lock in always being “big” I.e. in the Prem but there’s no way the fan bases will stand for that, even among the clubs who would benefit, which is why it won’t wash. The breakaway Super League might be inevitable someday but it won’t be because of American owners.
 
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I live in Bournemouth, so I have been sympathetic with them until they sacked Potter, now it seems they are being the next victims of the American vultures
 
Scott Parker……..that cardigan needs to be donated to the National Football Museum. When under intense pressure and your job is on the line……..dig out that Christmas gift from Auntie Muriel in 1985…….
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
United Liverpool Arsenal Spurs and Burnley all put pen to paper together in the letter to CAS (along with 4 other non-American clubs).

United Liverpool and Arsenal were the main three clubs from this country who worked towards the set-up of the Super League.

And they are all very pally with each other.

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All very anti-City and anti-Emirati.
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"United, Liverpool, Spurs and Burnley all put pen to paper together in the letter to CAS (along with 4 other non-American clubs).​

Spurs are not American owned now or then and Burnely were not American owned at the time. So including them in a cabal of Americans seems pretty stupid to me. Newcastle and Everton also signed, not owned by Americans either.

So it had nothing to do with being American then, and everything to do with being the teams who would benefit from us being out of Europe.


United Liverpool and Arsenal were the main three clubs from this country who worked towards the set-up of the Super League.​

And City, Chelsea and Spurs jumped right in with them.

As for the 2017 photo, it just proves my point. The chairmen of 3 teams met before a PL vote. It wasn't all the American owners in the league and the vote was lost by the big 6 because the American owned Crystal Palace, Swansea City and Bournemouth voted against it. They aren't a voting bloc just because they have the same passports.


Also I don't think the Glazers or Stan Kroene are "Anti-emritati" at all. Have you ever heard the Glazers speak badly about any Arab owners? Or even oil money? Have you ever heard Ed Woodward go on a rant about it? Have you ever heard Kroenke say anything about them? Gazidis?



They obviously don't like the competition, but I don't think there is any grounds for calling them anti-emirati, and frankly they could have done a lot more since 2008 to stop new big money owners coming into the league or bringing in spending controls that would have hurt us more.
 
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domalino said:
"United, Liverpool, Spurs and Burnley all put pen to paper together in the letter to CAS (along with 4 other non-American clubs).​

Spurs are not American owned now or then and Burnely were not American owned at the time. So including them in a cabal of Americans seems pretty stupid to me. Newcastle and Everton also signed, not owned by Americans either.

So it had nothing to do with being American then, and everything to do with being the teams who would benefit from us being out of Europe.


United Liverpool and Arsenal were the main three clubs from this country who worked towards the set-up of the Super League.​

And City, Chelsea and Spurs jumped right in with them.

As for the 2017 photo, it just proves my point. The chairmen of 3 teams met before a PL vote. It wasn't all the American owners in the league and the vote was lost by the big 6 because the American owned Crystal Palace, Swansea City and Bournemouth voted against it. They aren't a voting bloc just because they have the same passports.


Also I don't think the Glazers or Stan Kroene are "Anti-emritati" at all. Have you ever heard the Glazers speak badly about any Arab owners? Or even oil money? Have you ever heard Ed Woodward go on a rant about it? Have you ever heard Kroenke say anything about them? Gazidis?



They obviously don't like the competition, but I don't think there is any grounds for calling them anti-emirati, and frankly they could have done a lot more since 2008 to stop new big money owners coming into the league or bringing in spending controls that would have hurt us more.
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It's often missed that the "hateful 8" was actually 9 because Newcastle joined Arsenal, Burnley, Chelsea, Leicester Liverpool, Manchester United, Tottenham and Wolverhampton Wanderers in signing the letter. So, at the time, only 3 American and the rest a mix of British, Chinese, Thai and Russian.

We have worked as a block with the Big 6 regularly on such things as not signing up to an owners charter post super league, pushing for a bigger share of international TV rights, voting against the away fan ticket cap of £30....
always it's about money and we are as bad/greedy as the rest of them trying to grab what we can.

Also, a few days before the Super League news dropped, there were ECA meetings to discuss the new CL format and revenues. Woodward and Soriano were the PL representatives and were resisting the UEFA proposals . Simply we wanted a bigger share of the ££.

I broadly agree with your last paragraph as well. After the 2014 FFP settlement there was genuine disquiet with the G14 boys because in their eyes we got away with it. 2 of the 3 red shirts strongly lobbied UEFA and it culminated with the new UEFA rule effective from 15/16 which allowed more owner investment for any new boy and, directly aimed at us, the effective 30% cap (of total income) on sponsorship income originating from abu Dhabi based companies. We played ball and presumably have stuck to it ever since. Why wouldn't we? It suited us because our other revenues were growing naturally so as they increased we could also increase the sponsorship money if needed and the 30% cap was not going to impact us. Also no messing about with court cases and mainly onside with the G14 boys. Until Der Spiegel came along in November 2018....
 
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