Boycott the M*rror

[Zubrman]

Did anyone ever get five pounds from Chalky White?

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Sorry, didn't realise the Mirror was still going.

Stopped reading after their hatchet job, when City played Mansfield in 98.

 

[Tez Tosterone]

The last I heard of the Daily Mirror, was a news item a week or two ago stating that some of their staffers are being or have been charged with hacking offences.

Like The Sun, something Trinity Mirror have in the past stoutly denied.

Of course if any are taken to court and found guilty, nothing, absolutely nothing, would give me more pleasure.A nice stretch at HM's pleasure. What pleasant thoughts.

Here's a taster of what this repulsive paper is about.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33541265 or
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/03/phone-hacking-widespread-mirror-titles-court-told

 

[Damocles]

@Damocles @Ric the site is a US site isn't it? Tell them to get fucked.

Yes it is, it is hosted in Virginia.

And there's absolutely no way on the entire planet that any newspaper could possibly use a public domain, publicly accessible article as copyright protected content. That is laughable and I hope Ric is taking legal advice before telling them to shove it up their arse

 

[Blue&whitestripes]

And there's absolutely no way on the entire planet that any newspaper could possibly use a public domain, publicly accessible article as copyright protected content. That is laughable and I hope Ric is taking legal advice before telling them to shove it up their arse

You're wrong on that: a newspaper's articles - whether digital or dead tree - are, unless expressly exempted by the publication, the copyright of the publication.

Extracts from The Mirror's own Ts&Cs http://www.mirror.co.uk/terms-conditions/
2.1 The Site and the Interactive Services are for personal and non-commercial use only. You may download and print portions of the Site and/or the Interactive Services for your personal, non-commercial use only.

2.5 The intellectual property in all design, text, graphics and other material (other than User Generated Content) and the selection or arrangement of such material in the Site and/or the Interactive Services is owned by MGN Ltd and/or its respective licensors.

See also, for example, the FT's Copyright Policy http://help.ft.com/tools-services/copyright-policy/#axzz3haFpIt96

Here's the British Library Newspapers information on the subject http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/news/copynews/

There are allowed exceptions for limited use of copyrighted material https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright but copying and pasting an entire article (unless explicit permission is granted) is not one of them.

It's the same for any other copyrighted material that is published on the net: books, music, photographs etc.

 

[Damocles]

You're wrong on that: a newspaper's articles - whether digital or dead tree - are, unless expressly exempted by the publication, the copyright of the publication.

Extracts from The Mirror's own Ts&Cs http://www.mirror.co.uk/terms-conditions/
2.1 The Site and the Interactive Services are for personal and non-commercial use only. You may download and print portions of the Site and/or the Interactive Services for your personal, non-commercial use only.

2.5 The intellectual property in all design, text, graphics and other material (other than User Generated Content) and the selection or arrangement of such material in the Site and/or the Interactive Services is owned by MGN Ltd and/or its respective licensors.

See also, for example, the FT's Copyright Policy http://help.ft.com/tools-services/copyright-policy/#axzz3haFpIt96

Here's the British Library Newspapers information on the subject http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/news/copynews/

There are allowed exceptions for limited use of copyrighted material https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright but copying and pasting an entire article (unless explicit permission is granted) is not one of them.

It's the same for any other copyrighted material that is published on the net: books, music, photographs etc.

We aren't a British site, we're hosted in the US

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Wouldn't wipe my arse on it...and they can quote me on that.

 

[DiscoSteve]

I've never ever paid any money for a copy of this rag - there'll be a lot of left wingers on here who will struggle with this ban as they believe every word it prints

 

[Blue&whitestripes]

We aren't a British site, we're hosted in the US

I didn't make any reference to that, I just pointed out that your blanket statement "And there's absolutely no way on the entire planet that any newspaper could possibly use a public domain, publicly accessible article as copyright protected content. That is laughable " is incorrect. The all-too-frequently-made assumption that "if it's publicly available on the internet, it's in the public domain" is wrong.

As for the site being hosted in the USA, it is also "published" in the USA which could - I state could - leave the site owners and/or the hosting company vulnerable to legal action in the USA. At the very least, The Mirror would be able to use DMCA take-down notices to have the infringing material removed. Enough DMCA requests could adversely affect the site and could really piss off the hosting company, also to the detriment of the site
http://theipexporter.com/2013/03/25...tanding-foreign-takedown-notice-requirements/

I've also found out that Trinity Mirror are signed up to an Online Article Tracking service (http://www.nlamediaaccess.com/default.aspx?tabid=40#) which might account for why this site came to their attention.

Whatever any of us thinks of The Mirror's brand of journalism or of their methods, they do have the law on their side in this.

 

[Blue Haze]

It's pretty simple. We can post an excerpt of any publication so long as it falls under fair use. From that .gov site above

Criticism, review and reporting current events
Fair dealing for criticism, review or quotation is allowed for any type of copyright work. Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of reporting current events is allowed for any type of copyright work other than a photograph. In each of these cases, a sufficient acknowledgment will be required.

As stated, a photograph cannot be reproduced for the purpose of reporting current events. The intention of the law is to prevent newspapers or magazines reproducing photographs for reporting current events which have appeared in competitor’s publications.

So post a few relevant paragraphs, link the source and mock away. Do this and tell the Mirror to fuck off. Or better yet, paraphrase the Mirror and provide no links to their site. Why give them hits? Information isn't copyrighted.