Breathtaking

Things like smoking are a bit complicated because although smoking costs the NHS money it may actually save the taxpayer money overall. Smoking itself costs quite a lot in taxes but the biggest expenditure by government is on pensions and if people die early they are not paid state pension for as long.
so your public health England advice is .....

smoke more? eat more pies? Drink more quite frightening (white lightning)
and never walk anywhere.

sound.....I'm in.
 
yes that's complicated ...and yes Labour won't and haven't done great things.

So what's the ultimate solution for rich and poor alike?

The American model? European models? It seems fucked in this country and nurses are leaving apparently. A and E is a war zone. You can't get GP appointments or even speak to them sometimes as they shove you on line etc.

Your point about taking responsibilty for our own health I agree with having seen the smoking fat cunts walking around Ashton.

Honestly mate having lived in the US for a little while I’d not want that type of system here. The doctors are thorough but even with insurance the system is terrifying - needed an MRI and it was approved by the insurance company but even then was told if they didn’t pay out I’d be on the hook for $10k. What a life that is.

Looking after ourselves is harder than not looking after ourselves. Depends if we want a soft approach such as having home economics again in school - might help we had to do it in 1st to 3rd years of high school - not sure it’s made me a better cook mind and I’m as partial to junk food as the next person so probably not all that useful!!! So maybe tax the fuck out of it so it puts the price to the point people really will have to think long and hard about it. It’s not all about choice, Mental health plays a part - again by the time people realise they have a problem and have been eating their feelings it’s too late and they’re 30 stone - perhaps school has the answer, let’s make it normal to talk - of course it needs money but it’s probably one of those situations where the money you save in the long term pays for the upfront interventions.

Whatever the solution, or solutions, are I think we’d all agree they start long before people end up in hospital or on disability allowance because they literally can’t walk as they’ve fucked their bodies up.
 
Honestly mate having lived in the US for a little while I’d not want that type of system here. The doctors are thorough but even with insurance the system is terrifying - needed an MRI and it was approved by the insurance company but even then was told if they didn’t pay out I’d be on the hook for $10k. What a life that is.

Looking after ourselves is harder than not looking after ourselves. Depends if we want a soft approach such as having home economics again in school - might help we had to do it in 1st to 3rd years of high school - not sure it’s made me a better cook mind and I’m as partial to junk food as the next person so probably not all that useful!!! So maybe tax the fuck out of it so it puts the price to the point people really will have to think long and hard about it. It’s not all about choice, Mental health plays a part - again by the time people realise they have a problem and have been eating their feelings it’s too late and they’re 30 stone - perhaps school has the answer, let’s make it normal to talk - of course it needs money but it’s probably one of those situations where the money you save in the long term pays for the upfront interventions.

Whatever the solution, or solutions, are I think we’d all agree they start long before people end up in hospital or on disability allowance because they literally can’t walk as they’ve fucked their bodies up.
Mines a bit fucked but through working on building sites and having some serious falls off ladders, scaffolding etc

My poor back and knees. No DLA or PIP sadly. In fact zero benefits.


The cunts........until pension in a few months. YAY

(hang on ....my chest hurts..................)

Did I mention the drink, drugs and pies in years following the mighty blues? ooops
 
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Mines a bit fucked but through working on building sites and having some serious falls off ladders, scaffolding etc

My poor back and knees. No DLA or PIP sadly. In fact zero benefits.


The cunts........until pension in a few months. YAY

(hang on ....my chest hurts..................)

There is a reason women live longer than us mate. We take risks.
 
But she’d also tell you it’s not just about the NHS, it’s about us as well, she would ask why are people from less affluent backgrounds not prioritising their health until it’s often too late, and then pitch up with the hope the NHS can mop up their poor choices.

Sounds delightful mate.
 
I never banged a pot I never clapped - not out of disrespect but because I refused to be gaslit. Distraction distraction - there are still people banging on today that Johnson was brought down by cake and some fucking idiots still buy that. The way this drama is going the idea doing the rounds today about Johnson making a comeback will be done by the final ep on Wednesday
Absolutely this. The Thursday night applause was always in lieu of what the health service actually needed and was as cynical a ploy as could possibly be imagined
 
Things like smoking are a bit complicated because although smoking costs the NHS money it may actually save the taxpayer money overall. Smoking itself costs quite a lot in taxes but the biggest expenditure by government is on pensions and if people die early they are not paid state pension for as long.
I always remember the Alf Garnet rant where he described smoking as the ultimate patriotic thing one could do,ie,the tax the government receive throughout your life and the pension they dont have to pay you or not pay you for long as you snuff it early !
 

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