No doubt he’s a very good footballer but the problem is he doesn’t really look like a centre half either. We’re just about to bring 2 in and Dias will be back soon. Plus Stones would be there ahead of him if he was ever fit. In the unlikely event we ever have a fully fit defence this season against a good side i don’t think he’d start because Ake would be left back. Slightly worrying nearly 2 years in after paying £85m for the lad.
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Father Paul
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The glory days are gone, for now at least.We simply can't control games anymore in the same manner, and Pep's style of football requires little room for error in possession otherwise it leaves you completely exposed, just by the very nature of how high we get up the pitch.
As I said on a thread last week, the signs were there last season despite getting over the line, but there was a period last season where every goal we conceded were almost identical to each other, when we couldn't defend after a turnover of possession.
Until we get some new legs and players who can start controlling a game again, these results will be the norm.
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One of the worst signings we’ve had in the last five years (this version of him).Sorry Gundog but you are finished at this level
simon23
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Agree.Lots I agree with but their equaliser was scored from a cross that should have been defended far better by Savinho. He was far too passive and not for the first time. We simply cannot allow the number of crosses that we concede every game.
However they are also getting into those areas far too often..our defensive work in the midfield is woeful, especially when gundo came on. Kdb was great going forward but agsin awful defensively and was the cause of a number of their breakaways. Kovacic is working hard but he has no awareness of the second ball ...the list goes on...players unable to recover
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Said exactly the same to my son. Would have been a better option and we would probably have won the game.Agree and think that Grealish is the player you want to bring on at that stage to both hold the ball and draw fouls that waste time.
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If Pep insists playing Pep ball then he needs a new Ederson, Ortega is a great keeper but a car crash when it comes to distribution, he put us under pressure with some of his passing at the back and then when he kicked it forward he only occasionally found Haaland. I’m still fuming with that draw, the midfield offered zero protection to the defence once Kovacic went off, he wasn’t the best either tbh. I dont think unless we get at least 3 decent players in and one has to be a DM we will get top 4.
Dias and Ake are the only defenders who look like they take pride in their defending. They are the ones we see making those last ditch clearances/blocks/winning headers. Feel like the others think they are just extra midfielders who like being on the ball. Just shit defending again I’m not surprised at that stat which shows we are the worst at defending our box
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Peps subs yesterday were absolutely nonsensical.Said exactly the same to my son. Would have been a better option and we would probably have won the game.
He could maybe do a job in the last 20 minutes of games as an 8 or even as a false 9 if you hook Haaland. But he was never particularly good as a 6 - see the CL Final in Porto.Sorry Gundog but you are finished at this level
dickie davies
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Two on one almost every time and no one helped him outGvardiol was an absolute shambles tonight
Eaststander1
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Exactly ....... both those sides will be convinced that they dropped points last night, and we definitely did!Lost opportunity to pick up points when both liverpool and chelsea both dropped points.
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Scary thing is 7 people liked it.Get this rag banned
Looking at Brentford's second goal again Ortega should have saved it. A bizarre attempt it looked easier to palm it away than palm it into the net.
He doesn't dominate his area ederson would punched that!
For me the biggest problem is the desire to get back behind the ball from the midfield. Pep was all about if you don’t run you don’t play, well that has changed the desire to get back has gone. Phil, Doku, Savinho, I feel for the poor CM they just ain’t got the legs to do it the others have no excuse. We look like a PSG team who had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe m. We can call the defence all we want but it needs sorting and some either need a rocket or shipping on as it is not acceptable and not what City are about or was about. Once you give one the license it seems to creep in and it has not only crept in but it’s started to rot. I watched Kevin yesterday probably complete more sprints than Phil has all season.
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There are some little quick fixes that would get us over the line and that's having mobile quick young players like Robinson from Fulham. We are so static at times
Sunday league defending. We need a real goalkeeper and two real fullbacks, not players out of position. How many times did the ball go into midfield with only Brentford players visible? We need a goalkeeper like that clown at Aston Villa who can actually save shots. Man U goalkeeper turned their match around v Arsenal. New kid from Lens can tackle maybe he can teach some of our present players. Oh for the days of Sane and Mahrez, wingers who could shoot on target.A defensive shambles
He doesn't dominate his area ederson would punched that!
He had a fairly poor game by his usual standards. Passing was poor apart from to Haaland (which was decent), saved by Aké when in no-man's land and poor for the second
inchy14
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Tip it over and not sideways and he saves it.Looking at Brentford's second goal again Ortega should have saved it. A bizarre attempt it looked easier to palm it away than palm it into the net.
The first goal though… Akanji just stood ball watching … absolute joke defending.