As I said my view is purely based on the formula:
X is connected to City
Y is enemy of X
Y is therefore a ****
Haha
I know it’s more nuanced than that and yours and Vienna’s posts on here are really interesting, thank you.
The deep root of the rivalry, as I understand it ,is that the two men were from the same area of the North East.it might be even the same town , I've not had time to check.There was an unhealthy competiveness which built up between them from day 1 , which was exacerbated by the two entirely different ways of playing the game , esp 're discipline on the field.
I watched the damned utd movie and more or less dismissed it as any real insight to Clough. The film/ documentary I believe in miracles is absolutely brilliant, showing Clough ,just as he was.
It should also be remembered that ,as dirty as Leeds were, Clough believed in hard men being instilled in his team's. It was CLough who put Roy Mcfarland at the heart of Derby county's defence and won the league , he also, as has been said earlier, signed Larry lloyd from liverpool and Kenny Burns from Birmingham, both very aggressive players. Burns was a proper hard man. He used to look after the 16 year old Trevor Francis ,at the time when our former striker was scoring 4 goals in a match against Ipswich as a 16 year old.
And of course Clough, not Taylor discoverd Stuart Peacre ,one of the hardest left backs to play the game over the last few decades
and it was Clough who signed Roy Keane as a 19 year old from Ireland in later years. The difference was,I think , Clough demanded his players respect the referee and not argue with them . The same could not be said of Review at Leeds by all accounts. They were hard but snide.
Clearly encouraged by Revie. ..they must have been.
However all this discipline, and law and order public front ( he once told the Trent end ,forests vocal terrace , to stop swearing) wasn't the whole truth about the man.
Many many Notts folk know ,that behind the scenes he did just as he wanted to do....and made his money.....
Clough was witter, sharper and more articulate than Revie.
Or he appeared so....
Both men were very good forwards as players. While Revie achieved success at City, Cloughs career was cut short after he broke his leg one boxing day match at Roker Park, the break was so bad ,apparently fans in the ground heard it.....Clough had one of the most outstanding goals per games records of any striker in England at the time of his injury.which ended his footballing career.
I still think that injury, made him bitter ,very bitter.
There were not many better forwards about than Brain Clough in his day.