Stoned Rose
Well-Known Member
That little green jumper he used to roll in.
Iconic.
Iconic.
I wonder what he would have done with Clichy, Kolarov, Javi and dare i say Mangala, to name a few
Tbf, he only succumbed to alcohol towards the end. As for Taylor: yes a great assistant who enhanced the partnership, but " nothing without Taylor" is a bit harsh. Shame they fell out.Got to go against the flow here.tbf
A piss artist who was nothing without Taylor.
Similar to Malc/Joe the sum was defiantly better than the parts.Tbf, he only succumbed to alcohol towards the end. As for Taylor: yes a great assistant who enhanced the partnership, but " nothing without Taylor" is a bit harsh. Shame they fell out.
That's not what his forrmer players said. I spent some time with Martin O'Neil some years ago in a work capacity and he had nothing but praise for Clough. I am sure Taylor was crucial but as an inspirational leader Clough was one of the best this country has produced until the drinking took over.Got to go against the flow here.
A piss artist who was nothing without Taylor.
I have a friend who has followed United everywhere since the 70s and had a season ticket for 40 years at the swamp. He also works in the football industry. He says that that Forest performance at Old Trafford is the best he has ever seen including all their European matches. Given that Forest were on their way to winning two European Cups it's hard to argue with.yep,4nil Forest in their own back yard.Lovely.
The story behind that game is important...Clough had been vying for the England managers job along with Ron Greenwood..The FA decision to gIve the job to Greenwood was announced as Forest travelled up to old Old Trafford for the mid week first division fixture.These forest players of course had had their careers transformed by Clough..and Taylor...2nd division also rans,turned into a promotion winning team..none of those players wanted that particular journey to end..they had started their 1st season back in the top league really well,and now faced having the man who had turned their lives around,being nicked by England mid season...The forest players were told Clough was staying as they arrived at old trafford....those same journeymen players went out onto the old trafford pitch and smashed utd 4nil ...so relieved that they had held onto their manager...who of course went on to win the title that first season back in the top league before winning the two successive european cups...
Contrast John Bond. O'Neil said he came in, spoke to us for an hour, and said absolutely nothing.That's not what his forrmer players said. I spent some time with Martin O'Neil some years ago in a work capacity and he had nothing but praise for Clough. I am sure Taylor was crucial but as an inspirational leader Clough was one of the best this country has produced until the drinking took over.
John Bond to Cloughie is like Frank Clarke to Pep....it's a bit of a jump to say the least.Contrast John Bond. O'Neil said he came in, spoke to us for an hour, and said absolutely nothing.
Although it was at Portman Road(not Old Trafford)Ipswich Town hammered United 6-0 back in 1979-80. Gary Bailey was the hapless goalie who let 6 goals into his net. TBF Ipswich were a very good side back then.Clough was a genius. His Forest team came out of the second division and took the Divison 1 title by storm. I will never forget the way they destroyed the Rags at Old Trafford. It was the biggest hammering they had ever had till we did them 6-1.