Just read an interview with West Ham's Mark Noble on the Guardian, and just with reference to how Brian Kidd will regard City and United having been at both, I thought one quote was rather instructive, bearing in mind Noble is West Ham through and through: "But after year after year of playing it becomes normal and you tend not to think about it being your boyhood club. You come in and you're more professional and you think right, I've got to win, it's not about enjoying games or playing for your boyhood club any more. It's about winning games."