Brian Marwood (merged)

[NipHolmes]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Some people need some one to blame regardless of facts and knowledge

In this case this would be anyone on here who watches football outside of this league.

Many thought us winning the league made us a better team than they were because they simply arent up to speed with the continent.

The York away mob knocking anyone who dare go against the tide and offer contstructive criticism.

Signings of Sinclair and Rodwell were shocking when announced and now it really worries. For the price of them we could have signed Isco and the wages would be the same.

Witsel should've been bought instead of Garcia. Does any team need 3 holding players?

Sick of the bigotry and pedantic nature of the older members who speak down to anyone stepping over of the invisible line drawn by them. We have eyes and if you use them the picture is clear. No fucking width. No CM partner for Yaya to link play and speed it up. No partnerships upfront forming bar Tevez and Aguero.

We .ever answered the weaknesses of last year. Mario was a knob then and is a knob now. He doesn't justify his position or wage. Yesterday he was ok first half but for a lad who cost the same as RVP then no we aren't getting good value.

We will come on no doubt, just need to weed out passengers and find suitors. Replacements should be starting eleven quality rather than squad additions. Answers to weakness purchases. CM, replacement for the outgoing Kolo and a wide player. Sell a striker in Mario. Would reduce net spend then.

 

[GoMancini7]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Mancini knew the squad needs new players in key positions.

Imagine if we get Hazard and De Rossi no one else. Who would be benched for them that are now playing every time? The ones Mancini wanted probably out of the first team as Hazard and DDR would be first choice in the team.

Instead of Hazard we got nobody instead of DDR we got Rodwell and Garcia no way these were not panic buys. Platt says they were watching Rodwell ewhere? Everton bench?

I mean Henderson at Sunderland looked a good prospect a better one than Rodwell at Everton bench. But even Henderson turned out to be a very a avarege player for Pool.

Awful transfer window for City with some very late panic buy in the last day. If we dont manage to sign Sinclair we are not much behind now really.
Even is Silva/Nasri/Milner would be injured Mancini still wouldnt play a winger as he hates them.

 

[WNRH]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Some people need some one to blame regardless of facts and knowledge

What are the facts and knowledge? We needed to cut down because of FFP yet still spend £50m?

You ever considered that those three players were simply not available to us. RVP chose United. Hazard chose Chelsea. DDR chose to stay at Roma.

Now there is an argument that we could've paid a premium to secure the players, but you're talking about players who would've commanded 250k a week. That's adding a 3/4 million pounds a week to the wage bill. That's 3 million a month, or 36 million a year. Over four years that's 146 million pounds just in wages. Then add on the premium transfer fees. You get the picture. It's not realistic when you look at the current level of our wage bill. And that's not just about FFP, it's about having some sense of sensibility when running such a huge business.

With Hazard and DDR that may be right but with RVP, he had a choice, if we had gone all out we would have got him IMO. Regardless of that fact, the players we signed are we seriously suggesting that was the best we could get for £50m, the best the English champions could sign? Also what about De Jong? What was the difference in wages that we couldn't offer what he wanted? Enough to weaken us and lose money in the Champions League.

Out of all the people we signed i believe that Sinclair and Rodwell weren't Mancini's choice, Garcia was 2nd choice and Maicon was his choice. It was a terrible summer all round and has hurt us this year already, it needs rectifying in January.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

DDR - He chose to stay at Roma.

RVP - Tevez replacement?

Hazard - Absurd Agent fees,unauthorised by owners?

Martinez - Preferred Bayern.

I'm not sure what more Marwood could have done?

should have clicked the buy button on his PS3 game more quickly

Like Cook must have done to get Silva, Yaya, Tevez, Aquero, Lescott......etc
Let's face it we went to Fortnums but were only prepared to pay Aldi prices

Not in the know etc etc but heard Khaldoon got tarnished by the Marwood - I can deliver just as good players for considerably less policy.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Out of all the people we signed i believe that Sinclair and Rodwell weren't Mancini's choice, Garcia was 2nd choice and Maicon was his choice. It was a terrible summer all round and has hurt us this year already, it needs rectifying in January.

There was a collective failing last summer. It was crystal clear to anyone who had paid attention to the things which Khaldoun had been saying, and the noises coming out of the club, that we weren't going to go big in the transfer market. Therefore the onus was on the scouting team, management staff, executive committee whatever the fuck they call themselves, to identify quality players who weren't going to be adding tens of millions to the wage bill. The fact that the best they came up with is Garcia and Sinclair (I rate Rodwell and understand the signing) is a disappointment.

In actual fact we managed to find quality with Nastasic. That's the profile and level of players we were in for last summer, and that's why the failing is a scouting one rather than a financial one when you look at the signings of Garcia and Sinclair.

It's worth saying it's early doors fo Garcia and he looks a shadow of the player he was before he moved to us. He may well just need time to adjust.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Some people need some one to blame regardless of facts and knowledge

What are the facts and knowledge? We needed to cut down because of FFP yet still spend £50m?

We spent 22m I believe. Net.

A.J was on 100k which pays for Rodwell and Sinclair wages. We added about 5 mill to what we got for him to buy these.
Dejong wanted first team football and went for it. His money covered third if Garcia (who is paid less than DeJong was and wanted).
Maicon gives us 'width' and a cheap option. His cover at RB means Zaba and Richards can cover elsewhere.
Nasty replaced a terrible player. Money well spent but in all he cost about 15-20mill so not a bargain scouting job. We signed Savic the same time Nasty played for team. Wrong bastard choice and 10m+ hit that cost

To be positive we could sell Sinclair for what we paid, no problem at all. Rodwell needs games and time. Garcia I think also but he looks a dodgy one. Nasty was signing of Summer bar Michu. Wright does his job as cover. Maicon I rate but he's defo declined a fair bit since that treble at Inter. Great forward runner, poor defender. Such is life, a snip at his fee but dunno his wages.

 

[IamJedi]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

I would question some of his signings over the summer and they appeared to be last minute players to extend the size of the squad, otherwise, we would have been in serious trouble this year. Fact is he wanted RVP, DDR, Martinez and Hazard. We ended up with Rodwell, Garcia, Maicon and Sinclair. Difficult to say who is to blame for that without knowing thw inner workings of the club.

This about sums it up for me. Mancini wanted Thiago Silva, he got Nastasic (Admittedly a fantastic prospect, but he wanted high quality experience to challenge this season - I'm guessing a Kompany/Silva pairing would have kept at least one clean sheet by now). He wanted Hazard, he got Sinclair - Point makes itself I think. He wanted DDR, he got Garcia - Again, doesn't need much explaining. He wanted RVP to replace, presumably, Dzeko - We still have Dzeko, the rags have RVP and he's scoring for fun.

Now Mancini couldn't have had every single one of his first choice targets, that would have just been an insane luxury at a time of trying to cut back a little, but to get absolutely NONE of them after winning the league by a whisker after dropping out of all other competitions early is really poor. We shouldn't be averse to laying some blame at the owners feet either - If Mancini wanted the players, Marwood did everything to buy the players, but Mansour/Khaldoon didn't authorise the spending, then they're to blame. I know it doesn't sit well with people to blame the people who have already given us more than we could ever dream of, but looking at the situation in isolation that could very well be the long and short of it. Obviously we're much happier to blame Marwood, because it allows us not to blame our owners, but just consider that they could be the reason we didn't get any of our first choice targets.

As for our scouting department, if the crop of players we bought in are the best we can do, besides Nastasic, who seemed a reasonably known quantity for such a youngster, we need to bang some heads or fire some people, because we haven't addressed any of our weaknesses or improved the first team in any way. Our strongest team this season is still pretty much the strongest one last season, with all the same flaws our opponents had figured out already. We're bringing nothing new to the table this year. Our competitors are, and in the time it takes everyone else to figure out their new strategies they're picking up valuable points.

(The above is not to say Mancini shouldn't be doing better with the players we have - He should).

Well written mate. I really don´t know why did we buy Sinclair, Garcia or Jack. The have been poor. Garcia seems to be slowest player in PL, and it just makes me sick because I thought he would do just fine when he came, I thought that we would not buy shitty players anymore.

 

[WNRH]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

Out of all the people we signed i believe that Sinclair and Rodwell weren't Mancini's choice, Garcia was 2nd choice and Maicon was his choice. It was a terrible summer all round and has hurt us this year already, it needs rectifying in January.

There was a collective failing last summer. It was crystal clear to anyone who had paid attention to the things which Khaldoun had been saying, and the noises coming out of the club, that we weren't going to go big in the transfer market. Therefore the onus was on the scouting team, management staff, executive committee whatever the fuck they call themselves, to identify quality players who weren't going to be adding tens of millions to the wage bill. The fact that the best they came up with is Garcia and Sinclair (I rate Rodwell and understand the signing) is a disappointment.

In actual fact we managed to find quality with Nastasic. That's the profile and level of players we were in for last summer, and that's why the failing is a scouting one rather than a financial one when you look at the signings of Garcia and Sinclair.

It's worth saying it's early doors fo Garcia and he looks a shadow of the player he was before he moved to us. He may well just need time to adjust.

For me though replacing De Jong with Garcia/Rodwell was like replacing Kompany with Nastasic and Aguero with Guidetti. The replacements may prove to be better in the future or as good but in the short term not. As i said in another thread, it was calling out for De Jong yesterday to release Yaya and Silva, if Rodwell had been on the bench as well as Garcia neither of them would have got on which says more of what Mancini thinks of them.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

For me though replacing De Jong with Garcia/Rodwell was like replacing Kompany with Nastasic and Aguero with Guidetti. The replacements may prove to be better in the future or as good but in the short term not. As i said in another thread, it was calling out for De Jong yesterday to release Yaya and Silva, if Rodwell had been on the bench as well as Garcia neither of them would have got on which says more of what Mancini thinks of them.

We were stuck between a rock and a hard place with Nigel. He wanted to go, and he wasn't going to sign a new contract. Replacing him was never going to be easy as Madrid/Chelsea found when they both first tried to replace Makelele.

The mistake we made was in trying to buy like for like ... we should've moved for Moutinho or a player of that ilk who provided a wider passing range and a different type of midfield option.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re: Well done Brian Marwood.

For me though replacing De Jong with Garcia/Rodwell was like replacing Kompany with Nastasic and Aguero with Guidetti. The replacements may prove to be better in the future or as good but in the short term not. As i said in another thread, it was calling out for De Jong yesterday to release Yaya and Silva, if Rodwell had been on the bench as well as Garcia neither of them would have got on which says more of what Mancini thinks of them.

We were stuck between a rock and a hard place with Nigel. He wanted to go, and he wasn't going to sign a new contract. Replacing him was never going to be easy as Madrid/Chelsea found when they both first tried to replace Makelele.

The mistake we made was in trying to buy like for like ... we should've moved for Moutinho or a player of that ilk who provided a wider passing range and a different type of midfield option.

Dembele would have been a fantastic prem proven signing.