I've been looking at some old threads about Hart and his mistakes and even less than 3 years ago, people were calling him out on here.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/joe-hart.288911/page-220
And that's far from the only one.
If you are going to label both sides of the extreme, you should do so properly.I don't think this is the issue. I don't think anyone has said Joe was the best at everything ever, nor does anyone really want Bravo or Pep to do anything other than succeed.
For some reason on here there's no middle ground. If you think Bravo is rubbish or was a mistake, you're a Joe lover/don't understand football or are a rag, and if you think Bravo is the bees knees, you're a master tactician/ITK/Pep.
I totally agree that Joe was excellent at saving one-on-ones and it is somewhat odd that an experienced keeper playing at the top level, like Bravo, can be seemingly so poor. But it's swings and roundabouts. Joe gave away possession most of the time he had the ball whereas with Bravo we generally keep it.The problem is that our defensive lapses with a high line lead directly to running shots or one-on-one opportunities against our keeper - the thing that Joe did best and Bravo can barely do at all.
It was actually no different last season, where Joe had to deal with an average of about 1.5 such opportunities every game.
Joe saved (or caused the striker to miss) 2 out of 3 such opportunities by running out quickly, narrowing the angle and making himself big and getting a hand, arm, leg, foot or body on the ball. He generally got somthing on the ball (as per Torino/Juventus on Sunday) even if the ball went in.
Bravo has saved about 1 in 5 such opportunities this season. Frankly he may as well not be there.
Joe had other problems and probably needed to be replaced, but to replace him with a Keeper who is most vulnerable to the very type of chance we will give away is crazy.
Said this somewhere yesterday, but what I find odd is that since he got sent off he seems to stay back more, before he seemed to be further up and sweeping those balls over the top before they became one on ones.I totally agree that Joe was excellent at saving one-on-ones and it is somewhat odd that an experienced keeper playing at the top level, like Bravo, can be seemingly so poor. But it's swings and roundabouts. Joe gave away possession most of the time he had the ball whereas with Bravo we generally keep it.
I totally agree that Joe was excellent at saving one-on-ones and it is somewhat odd that an experienced keeper playing at the top level, like Bravo, can be seemingly so poor. But it's swings and roundabouts. Joe gave away possession most of the time he had the ball whereas with Bravo we generally keep it.
I've been looking at some old threads about Hart and his mistakes and even less than 3 years ago, people were calling him out on here.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/joe-hart.288911/page-220
And that's far from the only one.
Yes, because if Bravo was inept Guardiola, a manager used to winning multiple trophies every year, would just stick with him for 3 years out of spite.Think Joe's time has gone under Pep and as long as hes here we will have to put up with the inept Bravo
Some should have been careful what they wished for changing our donkey for a stallion would have been great but we got a blind mouse for him.Strongly suspect hart will be at Liverpool come January at least they'll be upgrading.I've been looking at some old threads about Hart and his mistakes and even less than 3 years ago, people were calling him out on here.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/joe-hart.288911/page-220
And that's far from the only one.
What are you saying here the 78% possession we had on Saturday's a great comfort to me.Harts been in superb form for England lately
How a keeper has become the focal point for starting moves is beyond me,hes a long way fronm the objective which is of course the net at the other end
Do I think one of Harts fantastic saves would galvanise the side in games ,of course it would
If you are going to label both sides of the extreme, you should do so properly.
"If you think Bravo is good, you are a happy clapper"
I totally agree that Joe was excellent at saving one-on-ones and it is somewhat odd that an experienced keeper playing at the top level, like Bravo, can be seemingly so poor. But it's swings and roundabouts. Joe gave away possession most of the time he had the ball whereas with Bravo we generally keep it.
Eh, what's going on? What have I missed?I'm still waiting for the self-proclaimed ITKs to substantiate their innuendos about Hart.
And please, no more of this "we'll get the pants sued off us" shit. You can give a general indication without getting into legal bother. FFS, you're clever enough on your other posts.
So, did he get banished for footballing or non-footballing reasons?
Two senior posters who claim inside knowledge have alleged Hart committed some sort of indiscretion that can't be elaborated on for legal reasons.Eh, what's going on? What have I missed?
Two senior posters who claim inside knowledge have alleged Hart committed some sort of indiscretion that can't be elaborated on for legal reasons.
If true, that might put a different light on the debate.
Probably kicked he cat,did we get a new one?Two senior posters who claim inside knowledge have alleged Hart committed some sort of indiscretion that can't be elaborated on for legal reasons.
If true, that might put a different light on the debate.