For a City fan (and I know you are) you seem to do nothing but criticise the players and your fellow fans. You are the archetype of a certain subset of our fans who go to most games but do nothing other than moan and groan, before during and after those games.Quite right as the size and stupidity behind his fuck up discredits anything before it. His stops don't even have to be decent, just stopping it or attempting to would be a nice change.
Im dreading going tonight, not because of the team, but the moaning will be worse than ever!For a City fan (and I know you are) you seem to do nothing but criticise the players and your fellow fans. You are the archetype of a certain subset of our fans who go to most games but do nothing other than moan and groan, before during and after those games.
You could also in the interest of fairness of course post a video of Harts saves in a city shirt starting with the title winning save at Everton, then post Bravo's match winning saves in a City shirt should be an quite a task.Well, it is echoed in the ground.
Guardiola has selected Bravo to replace Hart. Bravo is a better keeper than Hart. A shaky start behind a shite defence doesn't change that.
Bravo has been ok, he's been vilified from day one and compared to Hart from day one.
As I've posted several times, people are looking to blame Bravo regardless of what's actually happened. Not saying you are. But to suggest this isn't echoed in the stadium is wrong.
I'm in block 130. If you meet me for a Bovril pre ko, I assure you I could point out who'll be moaning and screaming at nothing after 3 minutes.
All this 'Hart' would have done this or that. Well I've posted footage of Hart doing absolutely no different vs Diouf as Bravo did vs Willian.
Yet fan reactions are totally different.
Setting off in a minute, promise to have my happy clappy head on.Im dreading going tonight, not because of the team, but the moaning will be worse than ever!
I haven't. I'm judging him solely on what i have seen of him here at City. From his time in Spain I know that he stayed at Sociedad until relatively late in his career (who have flirted from the segunda to the champions league) and I know he played at Barcelona. I don't recall him standing out as either a bad keeper or a good keeper. I just think that it's solely the fact that he played for Barcelona that is convincing people that he is a quality keeper. I believe had we have signed him directly from Sociedad and he was putting in the same kind of performances as he is now, even his biggest defenders would be less vocal about his ability.I have already said that I haven't seen that much of him just a couple of pages back. I posted the stat in response to someone saying he hardly had a save to make.
On the rest of your post, I already said I knew that and I'm sure you've watched enough of him before he came here to form a proper judgement of him.
I haven't. I'm judging him solely on what i have seen of him here at City. From his time in Spain I know that he stayed at Sociedad until relatively late in his career (who have flirted from the segunda to the champions league) and I know he played at Barcelona. I don't recall him standing out as either a bad keeper or a good keeper. I just think that it's solely the fact that he played for Barcelona that is convincing people that he is a quality keeper. I believe had we have signed him directly from Sociedad and he was putting in the same kind of performances as he is now, even his biggest defenders would be less vocal about his ability.
He's nowhere near the masterful passer some make out. Other than fairly straight forward 10 yard passes, what has he actually done that's impressed you so much? He's not particularly quick with the ball, nor is he particularly accurate when he goes long.Are you taking the piss here?
How so?
It does but that's because he's involved in teams that win things, although I would imagine Barcelona's and Chile's success has more to do with Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Sanchez, Vidal etc than it does Bravo. If we'd have won the Champions League last season, Joe Hart would have been on the shortlist for team of the tournament.It's not just that he played for Barca, there's also his international career ( team honours and personal honours )and the fact he was named on the shortlist for the FIFA team of the year. It all points toward him being a very good keeper.
No I'm saying he was particularly targeted on set pieces as a weak link and as such was physically troubled by the opposition to a degree which wouldn't have occurred in Spain.Ah, so you're implying that De Gea had a terrible first season because strikers gave him a hard time. Aww, that's a shame. That's their job FFS.
The simple fact of the matter is that the fans expected more from their keeper and he failed to deliver in his first season there. They didn't bin him off though did they? They gave him time, and in doing so they've proved the doubters wrong.
I don't think anyone's suggesting that Bravo's had anything like a good start, however the guy did have proven ability before arriving here. Once the Hart vs Bravo agenda is put to bed, I don't see much of a difference between the two scenario's to be honest.