Bring Back Joe Hart

[Prestwich_Blue]

The two posters below both agree with the view that he's not that great with the ball at his feet. Obviously we are all imagining it.

So how many goals have we conceded because of Bravo's mistakes with the ball at his feet?

 

[Kinkladze 1]

I'm not sure Bravo is good enough, but Hart certainly wasn't.

There's a lot of valid talk in the media about Hart not being good enough with his feet - where's the talk of him being horrendous on his left side? A shot low to Hart's left was almost a guaranteed goal. We saw it time and time again during the last couple seasons, and twice at the Euros.

Let's be honest, if Hart was a top goalkeeper, he wouldn't be at Torino. If Neuer, De Gea or Courtois were available on loan next summer, do you think they'd end up at a midtable Italian club? No, me neither.

Nice to see someone telling it like it is without flowering any shit up. Fully agreed.

 

[ono]

So how many goals have we conceded because of Bravo's mistakes with the ball at his feet?

None. Fraser Forster is terrible with the ball at his feet but I'd hazard a guess that he's only conceded the 1 goal as a consequence.

The idea behind Bravo was that his ability on the ball would be the over riding factor in our new philosophy and how he would effectively allow us to play with an extra man. So far that extra man has been fairly poor at keeping attempts out of his goal, been very average with finding blue shirts on anything longer than a 10-15 yard pass, non existent with his ability to communicate and inspire any form of confidence in the defence and fairly sketchy at times with his decision making and general control.

I think what I am trying to say is, I don't think his actual footballing ability is anywhere near as good as the LA Liga experts on here made out...or if it is, he's very hit and miss in showing it.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

I'm not sure Bravo is good enough, but Hart certainly wasn't.

There's a lot of valid talk in the media about Hart not being good enough with his feet - where's the talk of him being horrendous on his left side? A shot low to Hart's left was almost a guaranteed goal. We saw it time and time again during the last couple seasons, and twice at the Euros.

Let's be honest, if Hart was a top goalkeeper, he wouldn't be at Torino. If Neuer, De Gea or Courtois were available on loan next summer, do you think they'd end up at a midtable Italian club? No, me neither.

Whilst not disagreeing with your general point, to be fair to Hart he went on the market barely a fortnight before the window closed. Had City publicly offered him up at the start of June I don't doubt he'd have fetched somewhere more glamorous than Torino

 

[arfurclue]

The two posters below both agree with the view that he's not that great with the ball at his feet. Obviously we are all imagining it.

yes, that is possible - that you are seeing it through the 'filter' of your own mind...more 'imagination' than actual 'fact' :-)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

None.

Is the correct answer. None. I'd say his ability to help us keep the ball and move it with purpose has helped us far more than it's hindered us.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Is the correct answer. None. I'd say his ability to help us keep the ball and move it with purpose has helped us far more than it's hindered us.

True, but it has to be balanced against distinct averageness in the shot stopping stakes (purely personal opinion on my part of course)

 

[borassic]

Is the correct answer. None. I'd say his ability to help us keep the ball and move it with purpose has helped us far more than it's hindered us.

This and with time understanding will improve aswell. I'm still on the fence regarding Bravo, he's the style of keeper we need but is he the type that saves/wins us 10 points a season?

 

[Ric]

Whilst not disagreeing with your general point, to be fair to Hart he went on the market barely a fortnight before the window closed. Had City publicly offered him up at the start of June I don't doubt he'd have fetched somewhere more glamorous than Torino

I've no desire to denigrate Hart, but I believe other clubs were made aware of his availability long before that.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Is the correct answer. None. I'd say his ability to help us keep the ball and move it with purpose has helped us far more than it's hindered us.

And yet we appear to be conceding more and scoring less than last season maybe just a coincidence of course,I'm sure the manager will get it right once he gets a grip on how difficult a job he's got on his hands.