BRING BACK THE DEATH SENTENCE PLEASE......

robspankthemonkey said:
Made me cringe when i heard the story about this **** on the radio today, it just beggers beleif! torture then a slow death for this fooker!
i'd kill the twat and on prime time tv, show these fuckers what they have coming.
 
Although the tw@ deserves death(and I tell you, I'd be surprised if he isn't shanked to death within 5 years), I'm really angry at the mother getting a '12 month suspended sentence', when she clearly knew what was happening and never protected the child.

And I don't adhere to all the 'fear for her life' bull, when she could've walked out the door, child in arms and got himself arrested for child cruelty.

It's fooking sick and she should've got 10 years minimum for collusion.
 
TFC said:
They should have never got rid of it for clear cut cases like this one.

Sick twat, you can only hope someone inside finds out what he did and takes care of business.

That's usually what happens. There is a group over here who find out about shit like this and send detailed letters to inmates at the prison the person is going to. Never found out if anything came of it.
 
I haven't read the link to the crime committed but obviously someone has done something beyond evil.
If anyone abused my kids or killed a family member - I'd dish out my own terrible retribution, but that
would be my choice - and I'd have to deal with it.

I'm totally against the death sentence for two main reasons:
1. Miscarriage of justices which can never be rectified
(imagine your son/brother/dad killed by the state then found innocent after executiuon?)
2. We preach a civilised society. No-one has the right to take another persons life,
no matter how abhorrent the crime committed.

There are crimes that on the news and I think "kill the f*cker" (especially child-killers),
but really, as a society, we just can't.
 
Bigga said:
Although the tw@ deserves death(and I tell you, I'd be surprised if he isn't shanked to death within 5 years), I'm really angry at the mother getting a '12 month suspended sentence', when she clearly knew what was happening and never protected the child.

And I don't adhere to all the 'fear for her life' bull, when she could've walked out the door, child in arms and got himself arrested for child cruelty.

It's fooking sick and she should've got 10 years minimum for collusion.

Absolutely agreed - being a recent dad myself this story just made me want to kick the f**k out of both of these scum bags.
 
Swales lives said:
I haven't read the link to the crime committed but obviously someone has done something beyond evil.
If anyone abused my kids or killed a family member - I'd dish out my own terrible retribution, but that
would be my choice - and I'd have to deal with it.

I'm totally against the death sentence for two main reasons:
1. Miscarriage of justices which can never be rectified
(imagine your son/brother/dad killed by the state then found innocent after executiuon?)
2. We preach a civilised society. No-one has the right to take another persons life,
no matter how abhorrent the crime committed.

There are crimes that on the news and I think "kill the f*cker" (especially child-killers),
but really, as a society, we just can't.

I find it too big a subject to discuss in a way SL.

There are many different strands to why people kill and it's hard to put them all in one box and say "Execute them."

And, in a way, that's my point. Is one life of greater value than another that the perpertrator deserves to be executed, whilst another one doesn't?

But the mitigating circumstances of SOME cases need to be heard, surely?

So, do we bring back the Death penalty for all? Or do we leave it to a group of strangers to decide on the merits of each case? Like it's a lottery?


However, for this bastard....I would vote Yes.
 
I saw this in the papers but I didn't get to the end, far too upsetting. I just hope there is a special place in hell for this cnut to suffer for all eternity.
 
mackenzie said:
Swales lives said:
I haven't read the link to the crime committed but obviously someone has done something beyond evil.
If anyone abused my kids or killed a family member - I'd dish out my own terrible retribution, but that
would be my choice - and I'd have to deal with it.

I'm totally against the death sentence for two main reasons:
1. Miscarriage of justices which can never be rectified
(imagine your son/brother/dad killed by the state then found innocent after executiuon?)
2. We preach a civilised society. No-one has the right to take another persons life,
no matter how abhorrent the crime committed.

There are crimes that on the news and I think "kill the f*cker" (especially child-killers),
but really, as a society, we just can't.

I find it too big a subject to discuss in a way SL.

There are many different strands to why people kill and it's hard to put them all in one box and say "Execute them."

And, in a way, that's my point. Is one life of greater value than another that the perpertrator deserves to be executed, whilst another one doesn't?

But the mitigating circumstances of SOME cases need to be heard, surely?

So, do we bring back the Death penalty for all? Or do we leave it to a group of strangers to decide on the merits of each case? Like it's a lottery?


However, for this bastard....I would vote Yes.

So, what was so 'mitagating' about the mother's circumstance, that she couldn't pick up hr child and get the fook out of Dodge??

Women in these situations get off FAR too easily! Once they give birth, it's not their own saftey they should be thinking about! They should be thinking about the child who can't fight back! And that doesn't happen at 16 months.

It's fooking wrong, Macca.
 
Bigga said:
So, what was so 'mitagating' about the mother's circumstance, that she couldn't pick up hr child and get the fook out of Dodge??

Women in these situations get off FAR too easily! Once they give birth, it's not their own saftey they should be thinking about! They should be thinking about the child who can't fight back! And that doesn't happen at 16 months.

It's fooking wrong, Macca.

Bigga, read my post again.

Never once did I refer to the "Mother" in this particular case. I was referring to other cases of homicide.

And, for what it is worth now that you mention it, the woman in this case needs looking at far more closely imho.
 
mackenzie said:
Bigga said:
So, what was so 'mitagating' about the mother's circumstance, that she couldn't pick up hr child and get the fook out of Dodge??

Women in these situations get off FAR too easily! Once they give birth, it's not their own saftey they should be thinking about! They should be thinking about the child who can't fight back! And that doesn't happen at 16 months.

It's fooking wrong, Macca.

Bigga, read my post again.

Never once did I refer to the "Mother" in this particular case. I was referring to other cases of homicide.

And, for what it is worth now that you mention it, the woman in this case needs looking at far more closely imho.

I wasn't suggesting you mentioned the mother, Macca. But, in general, right through life, when it comes to the law, I get the feeling that women never get the same kind of sentences as men. Not unless they've outright fooking murdered someone!

Look at the Maxine Carr(can't remember her name, if that ain't right) situation. Same fooking thing. No mother, fine, but she colluded with Huntley in the murders of those two poor girls. She's out, he's still in.

What fooking justice...?
 
He killed them, she didn't. She wasn't even there.

That's the difference in that particular case Bigga.

I know what you are getting at Bigga, but the example is not good.

However, this can be taken into a different place altogether.
My parents HATED Hindley far more than Brady, simply because she was a woman.
 
Bigga said:
Look at the Maxine Carr(can't remember her name, if that ain't right) situation. Same fooking thing. No mother, fine, but she colluded with Huntley in the murders of those two poor girls. She's out, he's still in.

What fooking justice...?


Poor analogy IMO. Huntley murdered those kids, Carr wasn't anywhere near or have any prior knowledge of his intentions. She provided him with an alibi and for that she was rightly condemned and duly charged.
 
stony said:
Bigga said:
Look at the Maxine Carr(can't remember her name, if that ain't right) situation. Same fooking thing. No mother, fine, but she colluded with Huntley in the murders of those two poor girls. She's out, he's still in.

What fooking justice...?


Poor analogy IMO. Huntley murdered those kids, Carr wasn't anywhere near or have any prior knowledge of his intentions. She provided him with an alibi and for that she was rightly condemned and duly charged.

If you provide an alibi, you're almost as guilty of comitting the crime as the guilty party.

That's collusion.
 
Bigga said:
stony said:
Bigga said:
Look at the Maxine Carr(can't remember her name, if that ain't right) situation. Same fooking thing. No mother, fine, but she colluded with Huntley in the murders of those two poor girls. She's out, he's still in.

What fooking justice...?


Poor analogy IMO. Huntley murdered those kids, Carr wasn't anywhere near or have any prior knowledge of his intentions. She provided him with an alibi and for that she was rightly condemned and duly charged.

If you provide an alibi, you're almost as guilty of comitting the crime as the guilty party.

That's collusion.

Collusion...yes. But after the fact in this case.

No way was Carr almost as guilty as Huntley.

The only way that could be construed is if Carr deliberatley befriended those girls to allow Huntley to do what he did.

And, as much as I hated Carr for her pathetic attempts to shield Huntley after the fact...... I don't think she did.
 
Bigga said:
Well, maybe I'm harsh on Carr, but the mother of that poor baby went, basically, unpunished! Carr got more than she did!

What's that about??

No idea Bigga.

And am in agreement with you.
 
Don't agree with the death sentance at all. What happens if you sentance a man to death but to the realise a few years later that he didn't do it after all? You cannot bring the innocent victim back to life.

What should be used for sick bastards like this is 23 hours of sitting in a room with only a bed and a toilet, no TV, no magazines, no luxery's whatsoever. The mental torture of what he has done and being in their doing fuck all every day for the rest of your life is punishment enough for me.
 

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