BRING BACK THE DEATH SENTENCE PLEASE......

[Anonymous]

Look at the Maxine Carr(can't remember her name, if that ain't right) situation. Same fooking thing. No mother, fine, but she colluded with Huntley in the murders of those two poor girls. She's out, he's still in.

What fooking justice...?

Poor analogy IMO. Huntley murdered those kids, Carr wasn't anywhere near or have any prior knowledge of his intentions. She provided him with an alibi and for that she was rightly condemned and duly charged.

If you provide an alibi, you're almost as guilty of comitting the crime as the guilty party.

That's collusion.

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

 

[Bigga]

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

"not really'?? Wtf does that mean??

Either it is or isn't! There's no degree in collusion, ffs! If you're trying to protect someone, you're perverting the course of justice and therefore 'colluding' with the perp, in a murder case, in this particular case!!!

"You're boyfriend murdered two girls".

"No, he can't have. He was with me"... When, obviously, he wasn't!

You tell me if that's not colluding!!

 

[The Pink Panther]

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

"not really'?? Wtf does that mean??

Either it is or isn't! There's no degree in collusion, ffs! If you're trying to protect someone, you're perverting the course of justice and therefore 'colluding' with the perp, in a murder case, in this particular case!!!

"You're boyfriend murdered two girls".

"No, he can't have. He was with me"... When, obviously, he wasn't!

You tell me if that's not colluding!!

As a parent of two girls I think Huntley should be suffering a long lingering painful death.
His girlfriend however was convinced by him that he was being persecuted by the police because he did something wrong years ago and she naively believed him.
I actually felt a bit sorry for her

 

[Anonymous]

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

"not really'?? Wtf does that mean??

Either it is or isn't! There's no degree in collusion, ffs! If you're trying to protect someone, you're perverting the course of justice and therefore 'colluding' with the perp, in a murder case, in this particular case!!!

"You're boyfriend murdered two girls".

"No, he can't have. He was with me"... When, obviously, he wasn't!

You tell me if that's not colluding!!

I am not saying it is right, i am just saying i can understand why some people would do that. If your wife was to come home and say "i've stabbed a man tonight and think he has died" then would you take her to the police station straight away and hand her in? or if you had stabbed a man and he died, you would be hoping your wife would help you wouldn't you. Not saying it is right but i can understand why people do give false albi's in situations like that and don't think that the person giving the false alibi should be treated the same as the murderer.

 

[kronkonite]

people that want to bring back the death sentence should be beheaded

 

[Kippax.]

people that want to bring back the death sentence should be beheaded

lol

 

[Bigga]

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

"not really'?? Wtf does that mean??

Either it is or isn't! There's no degree in collusion, ffs! If you're trying to protect someone, you're perverting the course of justice and therefore 'colluding' with the perp, in a murder case, in this particular case!!!

"You're boyfriend murdered two girls".

"No, he can't have. He was with me"... When, obviously, he wasn't!

You tell me if that's not colluding!!

I am not saying it is right, i am just saying i can understand why some people would do that. If your wife was to come home and say "i've stabbed a man tonight and think he has died" then would you take her to the police station straight away and hand her in? or if you had stabbed a man and he died, you would be hoping your wife would help you wouldn't you. Not saying it is right but i can understand why people do give false albi's in situations like that and don't think that the person giving the false alibi should be treated the same as the murderer.

Balls. Although I may not actively hand my wife to a police station, I wouldn't lie for her, if she comitted a crime just for the hell of it!

However, if I take NQT's point into consideration, I can understand why an alibi was given, even though she shouldn't have, anyway.

I don't think I believed her, then, as I'm pretty sure she knew he 'befriended' those girls.

 

[Anonymous]

Balls. Although I may not actively hand my wife to a police station, I wouldn't lie for her, if she comitted a crime just for the hell of it!

However, if I take NQT's point into consideration, I can understand why an alibi was given, even though she shouldn't have, anyway.

I don't think I believed her, then, as I'm pretty sure she knew he 'befriended' those girls.

Well it all depends on who the person is and how they would react which we would all do differently. I beleive Carr was madly in love with Huntley and would do anything for him and Huntley took advantage of this by making her give him an alibi. You've all see what happens sometimes in a relationship where a women falls madly in love with her fella to the point that they will do anything for him, you only have to look at an abusive relationship to see that even though the women is getting seven shades of shit kicked out of her, she stills continues to stand by his side either due to being scared to leave or by blaming herself for why he is doing it, it doesn't make them a bad person, it's just that the love is blinding them from seeing the reality and i beleive that is what went wrong with Carr, she probably knew full well what she was doing was wrong but she would tell a lie to save the person she loved, i don't think she should of been treated the same as Huntley IMO.

 

[Helmet Cole]

Don't even try to understand these fuckers, and take the fact that you can't understand or relate to them as a good thing.

 

[Newlunar]

ECHR.......next!

 

[Bigga]

Well it all depends on who the person is and how they would react which we would all do differently. I beleive Carr was madly in love with Huntley and would do anything for him and Huntley took advantage of this by making her give him an alibi. You've all see what happens sometimes in a relationship where a women falls madly in love with her fella to the point that they will do anything for him, you only have to look at an abusive relationship to see that even though the women is getting seven shades of shit kicked out of her, she stills continues to stand by his side either due to being scared to leave or by blaming herself for why he is doing it, it doesn't make them a bad person, it's just that the love is blinding them from seeing the reality and i beleive that is what went wrong with Carr, she probably knew full well what she was doing was wrong but she would tell a lie to save the person she loved, i don't think she should of been treated the same as Huntley IMO.

That's fair enough.

So... How does one apply that theory, when it's no longer just their life they're responsible for, i.e., the mother of the murdered baby? To have been in complete and knowledge that her child has been physically abused for months and still be 'in love' with the man responsilble?

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain that one to me...

 

[simonk]

They should have never got rid of it for clear cut cases like this one.

Sick twat, you can only hope someone inside finds out what he did and takes care of business.

they will know who he is and what he did from the minute he gets off the coach. Will be 42ed straight off for his own protection. But he will be got at. Stabbed, beaten, boiling water and sugar thrown over him the lot. And that still wont be enough. I hope the sick tw@t suffers every day for 22 years

 

[Daves boy Saul]

labour won't bring back the death sentence the bunch of shithouses thev'e fucked everything up in this great country ov our's traitors.

No European Union country could bring back the death sentance even if that country voted yes in a referrendum as European laws forbin any form of capital punishment and our leaders have signed up to this. Makes you proud to be British - NOT.

 

[Swales lives]

labour won't bring back the death sentence the bunch of shithouses thev'e fucked everything up in this great country ov our's traitors.

No European Union country could bring back the death sentance even if that country voted yes in a referrendum as European laws forbin any form of capital punishment and our leaders have signed up to this. Makes you proud to be British - NOT.

Anyone who agrees with capital punishment is a f*ckin' moron.

 

[stony]

Anyone who agrees with capital punishment is a f*ckin' moron.

I not only agree with it, I'd pull the fucking trigger myself. Why should the tax payer fund Huntleys existence, when a bullet to the head would make everyone happy. If your answer includes the word 'god' don't bother replying.

 

[BingoBango]

Because state-sanctioned killing is a repulsive thing, and a very dangerous road to go down. This isn't the 19th century any more: we're better than that.

Strangely enough, through history it's been the God-botherers who've been very vocal supporters of capital punishment.

 

[Daves boy Saul]

labour won't bring back the death sentence the bunch of shithouses thev'e fucked everything up in this great country ov our's traitors.

No European Union country could bring back the death sentance even if that country voted yes in a referrendum as European laws forbin any form of capital punishment and our leaders have signed up to this. Makes you proud to be British - NOT.

Anyone who agrees with capital punishment is a f*ckin' moron.

Yes, very reasoned debate you half-wit. Some people on here make me cringe.

 

[stony]

Because state-sanctioned killing is a repulsive thing, and a very dangerous road to go down. This isn't the 19th century any more: we're better than that.

Strangely enough, through history it's been the God-botherers who've been very vocal supporters of capital punishment.

Better as in, we release our murderers so they can kill again ? Or if their crime was so heinous as to cause complete revulsion within society, we give them a new identity.
That's what I find repulsive.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Don't agree with the death sentance at all. What happens if you sentance a man to death but to the realise a few years later that he didn't do it after all? You cannot bring the innocent victim back to life.

What should be used for sick bastards like this is 23 hours of sitting in a room with only a bed and a toilet, no TV, no magazines, no luxery's whatsoever. The mental torture of what he has done and being in their doing fuck all every day for the rest of your life is punishment enough for me.

I agree 100% with this post. If I was faced with that kind of punishment for 22 years, I'd rather die. Killing scum like this gives them an easy way out. Let them suffer.

not really, i can understand why she did that, you do crazy things for the people you love.

"not really'?? Wtf does that mean??

Either it is or isn't! There's no degree in collusion, ffs! If you're trying to protect someone, you're perverting the course of justice and therefore 'colluding' with the perp, in a murder case, in this particular case!!!

"You're boyfriend murdered two girls".

"No, he can't have. He was with me"... When, obviously, he wasn't!

You tell me if that's not colluding!!

She colluded in perverting the course of justice and was duly punished. She didn't collude in the murders, so can't in any way be held responsible for them.

 

[mackenzie]

The question I want to ask is do we execute everyone that has killed?

If the answer is no, then who, or what, decides on which life that is lost is more deserving of the greater punishment?

And that is the crux of the matter for me.