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[bluemanc]

BBC in bashing British Army shocker, us who are old enough will remember this twattish organisation have been doing it for 40 odd years, not watched it because i have heard it all before over N.I. let me guess the Parachute Regiment have been singled out as the biggest bunch of thugs, terrorists, child killers, masked undercover bank robbers, gun runners, drug dealers, drunkard buggerers ever to wear a British Army uniform, its a load of bollox

Very close,the thread starter has now tagged them as being like Nazi soldiers & yes he has mentioned ,Afghanistan,Iraq,etc...........and NO i didnt ask who the etc are.
99%of the real footage showed the atrocities commited by the IRA but he seems to have missed that part of the prog.

 

[Bilboblue]

BBC in bashing British Army shocker, us who are old enough will remember this twattish organisation have been doing it for 40 odd years, not watched it because i have heard it all before over N.I. let me guess the Parachute Regiment have been singled out as the biggest bunch of thugs, terrorists, child killers, masked undercover bank robbers, gun runners, drug dealers, drunkard buggerers ever to wear a British Army uniform, its a load of bollox

Very close,the thread starter has now tagged them as being like Nazi soldiers & yes he has mentioned ,Afghanistan,Iraq,etc...........and NO i didnt ask who the etc are.
99%of the real footage showed the atrocities commited by the IRA but he seems to have missed that part of the prog.

The man (kazzydeyna) is obviously wound up about something.

Kazzy, you mentioned about wanting to live in a free society, what about all the innocent victims from IRA bombs, or kneecapping and all the other shit that went with it?

They did a lot of bad stuff, but I have no doubt a lot of the so-called innocents, would have been involved with the IRA in some form.

Try reading the book about the guy infiltrated the IRA and passed on info (50 Dead Men Walking?) and see how wider they cast their net, and the stuff they used to do.

 

[johnmc]

The difference between the IRA and the British Army in NI, was that the army killed civilians by mistake. They were going after the terrorists. The IRA on the hand killed indiscriminately.

You believe that as your right. I have a different opinion. But I don't want to argue about that as I have no proof to support my argument other than possibly the Savile enquiry (not that one before anyone starts)

But you have to agree the British army acted outside of their remit on many occasions whether you agree with their motives or not.

 

[scotty123]

Every time you think it is bad, look at the bombings such as Enniskillen.

Shooting innocents, was a disgrace, such as the grocer brothers, but killing unarmed IRA men who they knew were shooters? That's fine in my book.

Fair enough if that's your opinion, you are of course fully entitled to it.

I personally would prefer to live in a free, democratic society where EVERYONE lives under the rule of law.

How many tales of murder and uber-cowardice are we going to find out in years to come about our "brave British boys" in Afghanistan, Iraq etc..? My guess is dozens and dozens.

It's not just the cold blooded murder of civilians that gets to me, you kind of expect that from the British army, it's the fucking arrogance of these shithouses, as they know full well they are untouchable.

I hope and prey (and believe) that one day these bastards will spend years In a cold, dark prison. Hopefully in the country where they committed their murders.

-- Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:13 pm --

Unbelievable stuff. Horrible horrible viewing.

Tale after tale of the brave British army acting like fucking murdering scum, cowards, and shit houses. And boasting about it.

One day these bastards will rot in a jail.

Utter utter cowards and scum, who wouldn't in a million years have behaved like this if they didn't have a gun to hide behind.

Making me ashamed to be born in this country.

Boo fucking hoo. However bad the army acted in NI, it doesn't come close to what the IRA did. If you're that ashamed of your country, fuck off and live elsewhere.

Ahhh the old "if you don't like it live elsewhere" argument. Brilliant mate, simply brilliant.

There was a fella in Germany in the 30's used to think like that. I forget his name, but he had a funny moustache and a kind of greasy flick haircut. His soldiers did similar things. Like ours.

You utter utter despicable hand wringing excuse of a human being, i for one will not let you get away with comparing the soldiers of the British Army to Hitlers soldiers, you have insulted many of my family and quite a few of my friends who have served loyally and with bravery all over the world, if the mods do their jobs properly you should be removed from this site without haste

 

[stony]

The difference between the IRA and the British Army in NI, was that the army killed civilians by mistake. They were going after the terrorists. The IRA on the hand killed indiscriminately.

You believe that as your right. I have a different opinion. But I don't want to argue about that as I have no proof to support my argument other than possibly the Savile enquiry (not that one before anyone starts)

But you have to agree the British army acted outside of their remit on many occasions whether you agree with their motives or not.

You don't think the IRA killed indiscriminately, or you think the army deliberately murdered civilians just for the sake of it ? or both ?

 

[mad4city]

If those guys were handpicked, it doesn't say much for the rest of the British Army.
Not only did they fail spectacularly in their mission ("to draw the IRA out and minimise their operations" - IRA activities actually went UP during their campaign and the organisation continued for decades) but they're actually boasting about their incompetence!

The priest interviewed made a very telling comment that was glossed over by the Panorama team. His suggestion that by committing these acts and covering them up with the official tale that they were either defending themselves (patently untrue, by all available evidence) or, in some instances, attributing the shootings to Loyalist paramilitaries, they only furthered the mistrusts between the various parties in Northern Ireland. In other words, far from helping to bring about an end to the Troubles (as was suggested at the end of the documentary), they actually prolonged them!

Mistakes get made in war and, as mistakes in that war go, this was a king-sized f**k up. Only Thatcher's mishandling of the hunger strikes matches it for incompetence.

 

[Anonymous]

The difference between the IRA and the British Army in NI, was that the army killed civilians by mistake. They were going after the terrorists. The IRA on the hand killed indiscriminately.

You believe that as your right. I have a different opinion. But I don't want to argue about that as I have no proof to support my argument other than possibly the Savile enquiry (not that one before anyone starts)

But you have to agree the British army acted outside of their remit on many occasions whether you agree with their motives or not.

The British army certainly weren't whiter than white and them shooting suspicious looking civilians was completely wrong without them being proven to have been connected to the IRA.

However they did this not to take risks, they were fighting in a gorilla war against cowards and often they'd fire at someone they suspected to be the enemy. The IRA purposely bombed schools and pedestrian areas rather than go after the army or government, that is as low as it gets.

 

[DelToro]

Every time you think it is bad, look at the bombings such as Enniskillen.

Shooting innocents, was a disgrace, such as the grocer brothers, but killing unarmed IRA men who they knew were shooters? That's fine in my book.

Fair enough if that's your opinion, you are of course fully entitled to it.

I personally would prefer to live in a free, democratic society where EVERYONE lives under the rule of law.

How many tales of murder and uber-cowardice are we going to find out in years to come about our "brave British boys" in Afghanistan, Iraq etc..? My guess is dozens and dozens.

It's not just the cold blooded murder of civilians that gets to me, you kind of expect that from the British army, it's the fucking arrogance of these shithouses, as they know full well they are untouchable.

I hope and prey (and believe) that one day these bastards will spend years In a cold, dark prison. Hopefully in the country where they committed their murders.

-- Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:13 pm --

Boo fucking hoo. However bad the army acted in NI, it doesn't come close to what the IRA did. If you're that ashamed of your country, fuck off and live elsewhere.

Ahhh the old "if you don't like it live elsewhere" argument. Brilliant mate, simply brilliant.

There was a fella in Germany in the 30's used to think like that. I forget his name, but he had a funny moustache and a kind of greasy flick haircut. His soldiers did similar things. Like ours.

You utter utter despicable hand wringing excuse of a human being, i for one will not let you get away with comparing the soldiers of the British Army to Hitlers soldiers, you have insulted many of my family and quite a few of my friends who have served loyally and with bravery all over the world, if the mods do their jobs properly you should be removed from this site without haste

My Dad fought in the British Army in WWII and in Palestine but that did not stop him from criticising the military when he though that they deserved criticism. The whole point about democracy is that you ought to be able to hold the establishment to account.

 

[Blueto]

I wonder if there will be a Panorama programme to investigate McGunness, Adams or Paisley and their involvement in innocent murders.
I doubt it.

 

[Skashion]

far from helping to bring about an end to the Troubles (as was suggested at the end of the documentary), they actually prolonged them!

Bloody hell, that's controversial. You mean the presence of British forces in Northern Ireland made things worse? Tin hat time.