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British gas behaviour
- Thread starter urban genie
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They're not cutting numbers.How are they allowed to do this?
Surely if they are cutting staff numbers, that's just redundancy so normal redundancy procedures should be used.
Just a way to save on redundancy pay
They are imposing new conditions of services i.e. lower pay, less holiday etc.
Employees who do not accept the new contract are dismissed and offered immediate re-engagement on the new terms.
If they do not accept they are dismissed without redundancy pay on the basis that the new contract still constitutes a suitable, reasonable alternative.
1961_vintage
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Reasonable. What an abused term that so often is.They're not cutting numbers.
They are imposing new conditions of services i.e. lower pay, less holiday etc.
Employees who do not accept the new contract are dismissed and offered immediate re-engagement on the new terms.
If they do not accept they are dismissed without redundancy pay on the basis that the new contract still constitutes a suitable, reasonable alternative.
So why don't all companies who plan to make redundancies do that?They're not cutting numbers.
They are imposing new conditions of services i.e. lower pay, less holiday etc.
Employees who do not accept the new contract are dismissed and offered immediate re-engagement on the new terms.
If they do not accept they are dismissed without redundancy pay on the basis that the new contract still constitutes a suitable, reasonable alternative.
We are making you work 12 hour shifts, at night and cutting your pay to minimum wage. Or you can walk away now.
If the employer can demonstrate that the changes are essential and a last resort and have consulted etc and that the changes are “reasonable” then they can seek to hire and rehire.So why don't all companies who plan to make redundancies do that?
We are making you work 12 hour shifts, at night and cutting your pay to minimum wage. Or you can walk away now.
There may also be a clause within the existing contract that allows such variations.
This does not prevent an employee making a claim to an ET.
East Level 2
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Do you mean members of the EU can make their own laws? Better not tell Farage, Gove and the rest of the lying clowns.The EU has fuck all to do with it tbf, fire and rehire isn't against european, employment laws.
Asda, British Airways and others in france have used this tactic in previous years while under EU law
Only in Spain and Ireland is it enshrined in the countries own employment laws as far as I am aware.
Obvioulsy it makes it easier to be cuntish with them but let's not make this a brexit thread and dilute the issue.
Two Gun Bob
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It's a free market and they can trade how they think fit. However they will trade without my support and I have now moved over to Avro. It could have been any one of a number of energy companies as they all piss in the same pot but the actions of B.G to it's long term loyal workforce just doesn't sit right. And for that reason I'm out.
metalblue
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They're not cutting numbers.
They are imposing new conditions of services i.e. lower pay, less holiday etc.
Employees who do not accept the new contract are dismissed and offered immediate re-engagement on the new terms.
If they do not accept they are dismissed without redundancy pay on the basis that the new contract still constitutes a suitable, reasonable alternative.
Not saying you’re wrong but how can that be so? Didn’t Tesco get beat the other week in court for exactly this, cutting pay? Really the union should be getting them to court not dicking around with picket lines. I appreciate the other unions accepted the terms which makes it harder for unison to get ballsy.
Legislation will take ages, the unions need to think about clubbing together and get various legal judgement on this behaviour.
Mr Kobayashi
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Probably the wrong thread for issues about their service and supply.
Lots of people avoid the politics forum, better-off making a new thread.
Lots of people avoid the politics forum, better-off making a new thread.
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