This is bullshit.
there is nothing deluded about it, it will take generations to do it but its the only way.
This wont stop those that are extremist right now from doing what they are doing, its all about drying up the recruiting grounds.
Edit: the best way to cripple ISIS now is to work out where the arms and funding is coming from and cut them off. But seeing as We and the USA are the ones that armed them in the 1st place its pretty much a moot point.
Your argument, laudable as it is, is utterly flawed, what you suggest may work over generations if what we were facing was a static threat, we are not facing that at ll, we are facing a brutal and barbaric organisation who are virtually self funded now as they use the resources plundered from the areas they occupy and from unscrupulous arms dealers and the like who will provide what they need at a cost. They are intent on occupying and brutilising as many countries as possible, whilst carrying out long range terrorist attacks worldwide.
Unfortunately we dont have generations to sort this out, I get what your all saying about the ultimate cause of this but that's not the issue now, the issue is how can they be contained and wiped out, the simple truth is that only military force will ultimately get us in a position where some of the long term measures you speak of to combat this threat can be executed (no pun intended).!
Everyone fought the nazis for different reasons.That makes it sound like more of a unified effort than it really is, everyone that supports the air strikes has different motives for doing so. I'm pretty sure the Turks are only supporting them because they like killing everyone that lives to their south.
Nonsense, ISIS is a death cult not a proper ideology. It attracts disaffected and stupid half-wits from many countries around the world. It doesn't have roots in any area. It's like a cancer that needs to be destroyed. If the leadership is eradicated the rest will melt away. It certainly won't be around for generations. The Nazis were in power for 12 years before they were consigned to history; ISIS are much smaller with little popular support and won't last anywhere near as long as that. Appeasement didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with them.Yep, sorry wasn't really clear with that part of it, I was thinking more lofty goal of how to prevent his sort of stuff happening again in the long run and how we will be able to fully defeat ISIS totally. we need to do something to stop the war going on now ( I clarified in a previous post ) and to contain them but the idea that we can just go in and "kill them all" just doesn't work and would make things worse in the long run. ISIS is around and it will be around for generations.
You're better than these strawman in this thread.Much better instead to suggest that we should absolutely murder every single person who we vaguely think might look a bit like a terrorist instead.
Cut funding? How. They are a mini state and they control more than a little bit of oil. They aren't funded by outside anymore. They are the richest terrorist organisation in the world.I Edited :)
Basically cut funding and arms. It wouldn't' stop them but would cripple the organisation a bit. But its been proven that we are ( and the Americans ) are the ones that funded and armed the rebels in the 1st place so who knows what the powers that be will do.
We could ( and should ) militarily go in and break up the civil war in Syria so allowing the refugees to go home, help them rebuild there country and get there infrastructure back up. try to corral ISIS into a corner somewhere, but there will be no way to defeat them. they will be like the Taliban.
If we had actually done that properly in Iraq we probably wouldn't be where we are right now. we ran in, smashed em up, installed a puppet leader and ran leaving a massive power vacuum.
Everyone fought the nazis for different reasons.
Nonsense, ISIS is a death cult not a proper ideology. It attracts disaffected and stupid half-wits from many countries around the world. It doesn't have roots in any area. It's like a cancer that needs to be destroyed. If the leadership is eradicated the rest will melt away. It certainly won't be around for generations. The Nazis were in power for 12 years before they were consigned to history; ISIS are much smaller with little popular support and won't last anywhere near as long as that. Appeasement didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with them.
Haha. Funny the French fought someone? Hahahaha. Very good.Yep, the French only fought them because they ran out of places to run.