Budget

[SWP's back]

Respect your opinion and your decision for you but I can't agree with it. The weird thing about society today is one half of the country want uncontrolled immigration to pay for our pensions and the other half want the incumbent population to stop breeding if they are poor. We are living in a divided society and I don't want to see it further divided by affordability birthing.

I actually live in a country where I'd get fuck all. If I couldn't support them then it's my problem and if I lose my job I get deported.

I guess that just makes me act responsibly.

 

[yorknomore]

Not really,its aimed at people who are in desperate positions and are having more and more children with no way of paying for it apart from going cap in hand to the state. My whole point is around making people be more responsible.

My problem is with people who do this.

This isn't even up for debate anymore, the chancellor has acted and this is happening. end of story.

It isn't the end of story at all it's just the beginning just like the Fox hunting bill is having another looksie. Once the child poverty lobbyists get stuck into them it'll revert back in a few years.

 

[yorknomore]

I actually live in a country where I'd get fuck all. If I couldn't support them then it's my problem and if I lose my job I get deported.

I guess that just makes me act responsibly.

If everyone acted responsibly the birthrate would plummet and we'd have to do what every country with a small birthrate has to do which is import more and more people...hold on I haven't thought this through have I?

 

[Mustard Dave]

What happens if you are a devout Catholic and dont believe in contraception

There is an alternative method of contraception that would not anger God. Besides, why should I pay for somebody else's sprogs because they believe in some made-up sky fairy?

 

[whp.blue]

You're right, we should sterlise the unemployed.

Great idea as long as it is only chemically and could easily be reversed if they ever got themselves into a position where they could actually afford children

 

[SWP's back]

There is an alternative method of contraception that would not anger God. Besides, why should I pay for somebody else's sprogs because they believe in some made-up sky fairy?

Exactly.

 

[2sheikhs]

The woman with 5 kids (and others like
her ), had them when the state was paying for them. What happens when she is only given the means to look after 2 of them? Will 3 be taken from her.? Will they all end up neglected and malnourished? Will she have to get a job that covers enough to live and pay for childcare for 5 kids?
It's as unworkable as Ian Duncan Smith's plan from a few years ago to not give pregnant young women a flat. The frothing masses applauded him for it. That was until some people pointed out that some of those girls were having a shit time at home and saw getting pregnant as the only escape route. So what would he do? Tell them they had to like it or lump it? Let them have the child and take it from them?
Even he and his mates aren't that fucking dickensian.
It's just soundbites and clichés to satisfy people who are fortunate enough not to rely on help from the state.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Inflation is 0.1%.

Next.

Over the next 4 years? Also my pension contributions are going up yet again by a further 3%.
Carry on

 

[yorknomore]

The woman with 5 kids (and others like
her ), had them when the state was paying for them. What happens when she is only given the means to look after 2 of them? Will 3 be taken from her.? Will they all end up neglected and malnourished? Will she have to get a job that covers enough to live and pay for childcare for 5 kids?
It's as unworkable as Ian Duncan Smith's plan from a few years ago to not give pregnant young women a flat. The frothing masses applauded him for it. That was until some people pointed out that some of those girls were having a shit time at home and saw getting pregnant as the only escape route. So what would he do? Tell them they had to like it or lump it? Let them have the child and take it from them?
Even he and his mates aren't that fucking dickensian.
It's just soundbites and clichés to satisfy people who are fortunate enough not to rely on help from the state.

That's about the long and the short of it, as Jeff Goldblum would say.

And as for the budget how can this even be possible?

Recipients of the Victoria Cross and George Cross will see annual pension annuities rise from £2,129 to £10,000, paid for by bank fines. Government to fund memorial to victims of terrorism overseas

How much do the govt fine banks? It's in the millions maybe hundreds of millions and they are going to fund this incentive by using fines levied from banks? A piss in the ocean.

 

[Jung the foreman]

The woman with 5 kids (and others like
her ), had them when the state was paying for them. What happens when she is only given the means to look after 2 of them? Will 3 be taken from her.? Will they all end up neglected and malnourished? Will she have to get a job that covers enough to live and pay for childcare for 5 kids?
It's as unworkable as Ian Duncan Smith's plan from a few years ago to not give pregnant young women a flat. The frothing masses applauded him for it. That was until some people pointed out that some of those girls were having a shit time at home and saw getting pregnant as the only escape route. So what would he do? Tell them they had to like it or lump it? Let them have the child and take it from them?
Even he and his mates aren't that fucking dickensian.
It's just soundbites and clichés to satisfy people who are fortunate enough not to rely on help from the state.

That's why it only applies to those born after April 2017.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33440315