Bulger Murderer sent back to clink

[BlueDean]

I think the point, is that he wasn't exactly a paedophile before he went inside. Those lads were many things, but that isn't one of them. We can be 100% sure that they weren't paedophiles, simply because they shown during the Bulger murder that they had no switch that would stop them from doing anything that they wanted to. If they were paedophiles, they would have raped a kid back then. Since they didn't, it is logical to assume that Venables was made into a paedophile whilst inside.

I wouldn't be surprised considering he would have been on a protection wing inside, which is the domain of the paedos, thus associated with them regularly.

Hell, perhaps that is all wrong, and he just had the urge to look at kids being raped one day, I don't know. Who knows what goes on in a mind like his?

I have to disagree, I think they were underlying paedphilic and homosexual feelings and emotions from both venables and thompson, this was the first time either had explored them. I dont think they took him James Bulger to kill him, they took him as a dare then after what they did to him both physically and sexually they didnt know what to do with him so killed him and left him on the rail to cover there tracks (no pun intended)
If they took him to kill him why wonder round liverpool during the day for nearly 2 hours? They also took him to a canal first and physically assaulted him there. Left him but came back. All a bit strange to me.But llike I said there are only 2 people who know the truth and I cant see them rushing to announce the fact that they are a pair of nonces as well as killers

 

[Damocles]

I wouldn't be surprised considering he would have been on a protection wing inside, which is the domain of the paedos, thus associated with them regularly.

I've no idea how these things work but I'd seriously doubt that they'd chuck a kid in with all the paedo's

There are children sex offenders.

 

[Forzacitizens]

bring back the death penalty

 

[Damocles]

bring back the death penalty

Nothing teaches people that killing children is wrong, like killing children.

 

[The Fixer]

Reading through this thread regarding what these 2 did to that little boy makes me sick to the stomach, i've a 2 year old boy and i can't believe anyone could hurt a defenseless child in the brutal nature those 2 did.

I was fairly young when this happened probably 13 and although i remember seeing it on the news i never really understood what happened.

Them 2 should be behind bars forever. Infact i'm sure there's a contract on both heads tbh, heres hoping!!

 

[CITY FOR LIFE]

How are you sure thats him.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

I think the point, is that he wasn't exactly a paedophile before he went inside. Those lads were many things, but that isn't one of them. We can be 100% sure that they weren't paedophiles, simply because they shown during the Bulger murder that they had no switch that would stop them from doing anything that they wanted to. If they were paedophiles, they would have raped a kid back then. Since they didn't, it is logical to assume that Venables was made into a paedophile whilst inside.

I wouldn't be surprised considering he would have been on a protection wing inside, which is the domain of the paedos, thus associated with them regularly.

Hell, perhaps that is all wrong, and he just had the urge to look at kids being raped one day, I don't know. Who knows what goes on in a mind like his?

Well known that venables was sexually abused by his father, and most abusers stem from being abused.

 

[marco]

just been over on liverpool mad reading there posts on this topic ,much the same as on here but they were saying thompson was in a long term relationship with another man and venables was at the point of braging about his past and it seemed he wanted to be behind bars he visited goodison park and local pubs

 

[Damocles]

I think the point, is that he wasn't exactly a paedophile before he went inside. Those lads were many things, but that isn't one of them. We can be 100% sure that they weren't paedophiles, simply because they shown during the Bulger murder that they had no switch that would stop them from doing anything that they wanted to. If they were paedophiles, they would have raped a kid back then. Since they didn't, it is logical to assume that Venables was made into a paedophile whilst inside.

I wouldn't be surprised considering he would have been on a protection wing inside, which is the domain of the paedos, thus associated with them regularly.

Hell, perhaps that is all wrong, and he just had the urge to look at kids being raped one day, I don't know. Who knows what goes on in a mind like his?

Well known that venables was sexually abused by his father, and most abusers stem from being abused.

I didn't know that, it would certainly add a new element to his latest arrest if true.

Is that abusers abuse thing true or a myth? I seem to remember the science not backing it up, I may be wrong though.

 

[BlueDean]

I think the point, is that he wasn't exactly a paedophile before he went inside. Those lads were many things, but that isn't one of them. We can be 100% sure that they weren't paedophiles, simply because they shown during the Bulger murder that they had no switch that would stop them from doing anything that they wanted to. If they were paedophiles, they would have raped a kid back then. Since they didn't, it is logical to assume that Venables was made into a paedophile whilst inside.

I wouldn't be surprised considering he would have been on a protection wing inside, which is the domain of the paedos, thus associated with them regularly.

Hell, perhaps that is all wrong, and he just had the urge to look at kids being raped one day, I don't know. Who knows what goes on in a mind like his?

Well known that venables was sexually abused by his father, and most abusers stem from being abused.

Yeah I ve read something similiar. When asked about what they did to Jamies genitals Venables apparently turned to his dad and started hitting him and saying something that they wouldnt publish. But hes not the only child to ever get abused by his father, I read billy connoleys book and he was abused for years by his father and he turned out fine,

 

[glen quagmire]

bring back the death penalty

Nothing teaches people that killing children is wrong, like killing children.

how much has it cost US, to keep those vermin over the years? how much will it cost US to keep them in protection and secrecy? Anyone who commits a crime like that, huntley, whiting, black, brady, venables & thompson do not deserve to breath, did all those poor defenseless kiddies get secret identities, fed and watered and health treatment if they are ill? No they are all horrifically dead, with no-one to protect them in their darkest hours. Those 2 bastards should've been legally euthanised saving us all from this shite.

 

[Forzacitizens]

bring back the death penalty

Nothing teaches people that killing children is wrong, like killing children.

ok lets just give them another short - term sentence, 5 years ok? lets 'rehabilitate' them, only to find they re-offend, ruin another persons life, whilst costing the tax man......sounds like a plan!

 

[BlueDean]

Nothing teaches people that killing children is wrong, like killing children.

how much has it cost US, to keep those vermin over the years? how much will it cost US to keep them in protection and secrecy? Anyone who commits a crime like that, huntley, whiting, black, brady, venables & thompson do not deserve to breath, did all those poor defenseless kiddies get secret identities, fed and watered and health treatment if they are ill? No they are all horrifically dead, with no-one to protect them in their darkest hours. Those 2 bastards should've been legally euthanised saving us all from this shite.

Cant compare Venables and Thompson, to the likes of Brady etc. They were 10 at the time

U cant go around killing 10 year olds no matter how horrible there crime, that would make us as a society little better tah them

 

[The Fixer]

Well known that venables was sexually abused by his father, and most abusers stem from being abused.

I didn't know that, it would certainly add a new element to his latest arrest if true.

Is that abusers abuse thing true or a myth? I seem to remember the science not backing it up, I may be wrong though.

Mi mam had a relationship with a guy who had been seaxually abused by his uncle, unbeknown to mi mam at the time. This guy was in his 50's and whilst we don't think he inflicted sexual abuse on other kids, his mental state was far from normal.

He used to leather my mam black and blue, she said his sexual tendancies were not of a normal bloke, she would catch him sending picture messages of his manhood through his mobile to complete strangers.

My mother needed counselling for 2 years due to a nervous breakdown, in my experience ppl who have been subjected to sexual abuse when children have seriously damaged minds in adulthood.

 

[Damocles]

Nothing teaches people that killing children is wrong, like killing children.

how much has it cost US, to keep those vermin over the years? how much will it cost US to keep them in protection and secrecy? Anyone who commits a crime like that, huntley, whiting, black, brady, venables & thompson do not deserve to breath, did all those poor defenseless kiddies get secret identities, fed and watered and health treatment if they are ill? No they are all horrifically dead, with no-one to protect them in their darkest hours. Those 2 bastards should've been legally euthanised saving us all from this shite.

So what?

You don't give up 300 years of legal precedence because it doesn't fit one particularly crime. Killing somebody is never accepted, as a crime, or as a punishment.

 

[Kinnel Tommy]

been on the Liverpool forum, the topic has been locked down due to people gettign over excited

 

[Bilboblue]

been on the Liverpool forum, the topic has been locked down due to people gettign over excited

RAWK?

 

[Dr.Faustus]

Well known that venables was sexually abused by his father, and most abusers stem from being abused.

Yeah I ve read something similiar. When asked about what they did to Jamies genitals Venables apparently turned to his dad and started hitting him and saying something that they wouldnt publish. But hes not the only child to ever get abused by his father, I read billy connoleys book and he was abused for years by his father and he turned out fine,

The rumours of prior abuse were about Thompson not Venables; in fact most contemporary thought at the time was that Venables followed Thompson- how true that is, is another matter.

 

[glen quagmire]

how much has it cost US, to keep those vermin over the years? how much will it cost US to keep them in protection and secrecy? Anyone who commits a crime like that, huntley, whiting, black, brady, venables & thompson do not deserve to breath, did all those poor defenseless kiddies get secret identities, fed and watered and health treatment if they are ill? No they are all horrifically dead, with no-one to protect them in their darkest hours. Those 2 bastards should've been legally euthanised saving us all from this shite.

So what?

You don't give up 300 years of legal precedence because it doesn't fit one particularly crime. Killing somebody is never accepted, as a crime, or as a punishment.

in what capacity does roy whiting or ian black contribute to society? FFS they will never be out, so why just keep them alive? all the kids black raped and killed or what about what whiting did to Sarah Payne? Executing these people would free up much needed funds and professional individuals who could be much better placed like detecting crime or protecting vulnerable people. I stand by my original post, injecting them with poison would be too lieniant IMHO.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Yeah I ve read something similiar. When asked about what they did to Jamies genitals Venables apparently turned to his dad and started hitting him and saying something that they wouldnt publish. But hes not the only child to ever get abused by his father, I read billy connoleys book and he was abused for years by his father and he turned out fine,

The rumours of prior abuse were about Thompson not Venables; in fact most contemporary thought at the time was that Venables followed Thompson- how true that is, is another matter.

Listen rumor and facts are completely different, i've read with my own eyes venables and Thomsons psychological evaluations, both were subjected to immense abuse from an early age, both suffered sexual abuse from family members. And this notion that venables was merely following thompson is frankly laughable. He was psycho-analyzed throughout the case and was evaluated as having a Goffman Complex, hence the breakdown in court and being the 1st to proverbially crack. The CCTV surveillance also dispelled the myth, both were calculated and clearly had Venables directing thompson in the act. FACT