Bundesliga 2016/17

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1860 just got relegated....

Got beat 2-0 at home by Regensburg having drawn 1-1 away a few days ago.

One positive is that they could now move back to the Grünwalder station.

Wolfsburg avoided relegation in their playoff with Braunschweig.

Paderborn drew with Osnabruck while Werder Bremen's B team won, meaning Paderborn got relegated for the third successive season. That's a hell of a fall from grace.

They won't play in the Allianz Arena? Got a crowd of over 60,000, very impressive. Reminds me of City in the 3rd tier.
 
Leverscum are believed to have some interest in signing Tuchel. Would't really surprise me, as they have a young team full of quality players and enough dough to spend on their squad.
Isn't the usual plan to sell all the young players to Bayern and start again from scratch?
 
Isn't the usual plan to sell all the young players to Bayern and start again from scratch?

I guess the last player that went from Leverkusen to Bayern is more than 10 years ago.

Bayern does not have many players from other German clubs. Less than the other German competitors - and they make good deals, too. We do not grab the best youth players either - there rarely is a player from Bayern in the German U-teams...

The only reason - as Bayern is the only European top club in Germany it always makes headlines when Bayern does something.
 
They won't play in the Allianz Arena? Got a crowd of over 60,000, very impressive. Reminds me of City in the 3rd tier.

catastrophe tourism - they usually have around 20.000 visitors

There is no romantic when talking of 1860 in the last years (only comedy - reality is even funnier than people would believe it in a comedy show...) - probably the worst led club in the recent 10 years with 13 different managers since 2010 - probably as many presidents and managers. The sport manager has already resigned in the morning, the president during the match, the coach did not want to tell anything at the press conference but he came to lead the club into the Champions League... ;)

About all contracts run out and in the next weeks there probably will be nobody to decide anything...

It is questionable if the investor will still be there in 3rd league - as it just was loaned money the club is deeply in debt (far deeper than they have been when he started to back the club) and a big question is if they get the licence for the 3rd league or even if they have put the papers in for it.

This season the 1st team, the U23, the U19, the U17 and U16 get relegated... (1860 always was known for their great youth work...)
 
Ian Ayre, only appointed in April, also left 1860 today.

With the first team getting relegated to the 3. Liga, it also means that the U23 side in the Regionalliga Bayern (4th division), who finished 2nd, get relegated down to the Bayernliga (5th tier). Talk about a strange relegation!
 
Ian Ayre, only appointed in April, also left 1860 today.

With the first team getting relegated to the 3. Liga, it also means that the U23 side in the Regionalliga Bayern (4th division), who finished 2nd, get relegated down to the Bayernliga (5th tier). Talk about a strange relegation!

That is the least of the problems. The U23s have a special permission and that includes that rule. Nothing special about this. But if they do not get a licence for the third I think they could start in the 4th league like this and not deeper. Does not make sense anyways to have a U23 in the fourth league when your U19 and U17 aren't in the highest possible league anymore. The U23 is seen as a stepstone for the professionals - some of the Bundesliga clubs even do not have one and promote directly from the U19, loan the players that they do not need or let them go when they do not have the potential. Having that U23 costs you extra money - that a 3rd league club might not have... As the most of their players now do not have contracts for the 3rd league they will need to promote some of the U23.

As said - it is just sad (okay, as a Bayern fan I do not really mind but a lot of neutrals might see it like this) how a club that was once such a traditional bavarian club was run to ground in the recent seasons. One bad decision followed the other - everybody working against each other - then an investor without any knowledge of football jumping in who had never a real connection to the club and its acting persons and culture of the club...
 
That is the least of the problems. The U23s have a special permission and that includes that rule. Nothing special about this. But if they do not get a licence for the third I think they could start in the 4th league like this and not deeper. Does not make sense anyways to have a U23 in the fourth league when your U19 and U17 aren't in the highest possible league anymore. The U23 is seen as a stepstone for the professionals - some of the Bundesliga clubs even do not have one and promote directly from the U19, loan the players that they do not need or let them go when they do not have the potential. Having that U23 costs you extra money - that a 3rd league club might not have... As the most of their players now do not have contracts for the 3rd league they will need to promote some of the U23.

As said - it is just sad (okay, as a Bayern fan I do not really mind but a lot of neutrals might see it like this) how a club that was once such a traditional bavarian club was run to ground in the recent seasons. One bad decision followed the other - everybody working against each other - then an investor without any knowledge of football jumping in who had never a real connection to the club and its acting persons and culture of the club...

It's a huge shame tbh how fucked they are. Their youth system has been very good.

Huddersfield hero Christopher Schindler
Julian Weigl
Kevin Volland
Sven and Lars Bender
Julian Baumgartlinger
Moritz Leitner
Fabian Johnson
Bobby Wood
 
That is the least of the problems. The U23s have a special permission and that includes that rule. Nothing special about this. But if they do not get a licence for the third I think they could start in the 4th league like this and not deeper. Does not make sense anyways to have a U23 in the fourth league when your U19 and U17 aren't in the highest possible league anymore. The U23 is seen as a stepstone for the professionals - some of the Bundesliga clubs even do not have one and promote directly from the U19, loan the players that they do not need or let them go when they do not have the potential. Having that U23 costs you extra money - that a 3rd league club might not have... As the most of their players now do not have contracts for the 3rd league they will need to promote some of the U23.

As said - it is just sad (okay, as a Bayern fan I do not really mind but a lot of neutrals might see it like this) how a club that was once such a traditional bavarian club was run to ground in the recent seasons. One bad decision followed the other - everybody working against each other - then an investor without any knowledge of football jumping in who had never a real connection to the club and its acting persons and culture of the club...

There's a new traditional Bavarian club :0

Quite pleased Regensburg went up. Gives me a chance to go to the proper Ingolstadt derby.
 
Right now it seems like the plans to increase capacity of our (Frankfurt) ground are getting real, as the club and city are already in talks and agreed that an increase of capacity is necessary. The plan is to increase the capacity of the standing terrace from 8300 to up to 20000 (our old ground had a standing terrace with a capacity of 30000).

Purpose is to obviously increase the capacity and at the same time make going to games/buying a season ticket affordable for everyone. There are even talkes to remove some of the corporate lounges to make room for the enhanced standing terrace.

I am obviously biased, but if this is becoming reality then it is a huge step into the right direction to keep football the "people´s sport".
 
Right now it seems like the plans to increase capacity of our (Frankfurt) ground are getting real, as the club and city are already in talks and agreed that an increase of capacity is necessary. The plan is to increase the capacity of the standing terrace from 8300 to up to 20000 (our old ground had a standing terrace with a capacity of 30000).

Purpose is to obviously increase the capacity and at the same time make going to games/buying a season ticket affordable for everyone. There are even talkes to remove some of the corporate lounges to make room for the enhanced standing terrace.

I am obviously biased, but if this is becoming reality then it is a huge step into the right direction to keep football the "people´s sport".

i wish we had that in england. its the opposite at most clubs here, more corporate areas and higher ticket prices.....
 
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