Bundesliga 2019/20

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I suspect most of those supporters will have been based in NRW. Similar to Liverpool and United here (and to an increasing degree City), Bayern and Dortmund have supporters all over the country (and world)

Actually Bayern II has an own supporter base that really watch every match in Munich if possible. I do not know how many of them follow when they play away in the west of Germany - and there some of the "normal" FC Bayern supporters in the West might come, too, to watch the talents.

I still live in Bavaria - but we have 350 kilometre distance to Munich, but only 35 to Frankfurt. My neighbour is Hamburg fan since childhood. He got fan in the 60s. There was never a question that I want to be a Bayern fan - and I do not even remember the successes in the 70s as I just was too small then. My first real memories are from mid to end of the 70s - a rather difficult Bayern period. We have a big Eintracht fan crowd here - a lot travel to every match - and a lot Offenbach fans, too. There is some Gladbach fans that got hooked in the 70s - and since their success period in the 90s (or around 2010) some BVB fans.

I didn't realise Bayern couldn't be promoted, what's the point.?

There have to be 2 leagues distance between first and second team. A U23-team of a 2nd Bundesliga team cannot play higher than in one of the Regionalligas. But right now only Bayern's U23 team plays 3rd league. With only three teams being able to get promoted from one of the five Regionalligas - it was pretty difficult for Bayern to get the promotion back to 3rd league after going down in 2012 or 2013. In 2015 or 2016 - when Erik Ten Hag was coach of Bayern's U23 they failed in the last minute of the relegation match because of a goalkeeper mistake. I think that the quality differences between the 2nd and 3rd league aren't huge - but the differences between the 5 Regionalliga legs and the 3rd league are.

It is pretty difficult to keep a U23 team in the 3rd league as you always have to implement new young players from the U19 into the team - whereas the best talents that use that team as a stepstone into professional football leave after one year.
 
North East Regionalliga declared Lok Leipzig as champion and will play the Champion of the Regionalliga West for a place in 3 Liga. As Rodinghausen don't want to be promoted, it is expected to be Verl who they play.
 
North East Regionalliga declared Lok Leipzig as champion and will play the Champion of the Regionalliga West for a place in 3 Liga. As Rodinghausen don't want to be promoted, it is expected to be Verl who they play.

Last season it was just Bayern out of the first teams of the Regionalliga Bayern (but they were first) got the papers needed to get promoted to the third league. There is several requirements needed in 3rd league - e.g. for the stadium and small clubs like Rödinghausen just to not have the budgets etc. to work sustainable in league 3.

Türkgücü München is e.g. far ahead in the Regionalliga Bayern (they have an investor who pumps money in) and would like to get promoted to 3rd league - but right now there really is a stadium problem. The only stadium that is possible to use in Munich is the Grünwalder stadium - but there already FC Bayern's U23 and 1860 play. And 3 clubs in one stadium is not allowed. Unterhaching (who is a supburb of Munich) does not want to share their own stadium with them.

A similar problem 1860 has if they would get promoted to 2nd league as the Grünwalder Stadium does not hold the rules for the 2nd league. And when they finally left the Allianz Arena everybody knew that there will not be a way back in.
 
Losing to Bayern as well, not good. At least 1860 are coming up on the rails.

Unsure if you follow 1860 but was curious on their current situation since meeting a bunch of their fans a couple of years ago in Munich.

Do they still have that high profile Jordanian investor who refused to pay the league license fee?

There were also talks of him building a new stadium or 1860 possibly moving into the massive unused Olympiastadion since the Grünwalder Stadion is overused.
 
Unsure if you follow 1860 but was curious on their current situation since meeting a bunch of their fans a couple of years ago in Munich.

Do they still have that high profile Jordanian investor who refused to pay the league license fee?

There were also talks of him building a new stadium or 1860 possibly moving into the massive unused Olympiastadion since the Grünwalder Stadion is overused.
He is still there, no idea what he contributes though. The lack of a new stadium is probably more down to lack of planning permission, nobody wants it in their backyard.
 
Missed the start (and the first goal) of the Düsseldorf-Hoffenheim game, but just saw the sending-off.

Well spotted, ref, and the right decision.
 
Probably an unpopular opinion, but just watching the Bayern game, and think the pumped in crowd noise does actually make it better.
 
Probably an unpopular opinion, but just watching the Bayern game, and think the pumped in crowd noise does actually make it better.
Agreed. Every week so far I’ve looked at the fixtures and been excited only to remember that there’s no fans instantly and been disappointed.

On a completely different subject, I had my first dream about being in lockdown last night.
 
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