Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

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Maldeika said:
supercrystal7 said:
What do you make of Selke and Werner by the way? Would be nice to hear your opinions on which is the more promising.
How do you think Meyer compares to a young Gotze?
Do you think Rudiger can be a top defender?
Hojbjerg, Max Arnold or Goretzka which do you think has more potential?

You cannot say anything about them and who is getting to which heights. Until now you just can say that they will make decent Bundesliga professionals - and hopefully they do not get hyped too much as that never was good. The last six or seven years really have shown that. I love to look into the list of the Fritz-Walter-Medal. It's rewarded to the most promising U19, U18 and U17 player of each season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Walter_Medal

They have all a lot talent. Rüdiger reminds a little bit on young Boateng - he needs to calm down and concentrate and work on his distribution but when he works hard and makes the right moves that will not be a problem. He has the physical attributes for a good defender.

Höjbjerg - at him I do not know if he is the biggest talent football wise - atleast the usual fans that love to hype young players do not do it with him. But - I have seen him playing in command for the U23 team of Bayern when he was 17/18 and he was bossing the team - and I have seen him keeping Ibrahimovic calm in his first match for the national team a year ago. For such a young player he already has a real personality - and I think that is something that is very important in addition to all other factors that should not be underestimated.

Look at Emre Can... With 16/17 the most promising of his year. With 18/19 he seemed to get one of this talents who is too arrogant to really work on it. I think he did a lot partying, too. Out of the environment in Leverkusen he seemed to have found it again - and in Liverpool he now somehow looks like he is gonna have a big career coming.

There is so much factors...
Agree regarding Boateng.

But with Hojbjerg I've watched most of his games at FC Augbsurg, as all have been televised. He's performed very well for them, especially against Dortmund and in the first half on Sunday. He seems to have a nack of going unnoticed yet doing a key role. His passing has been good, something very important in Weinzierl's Augsburg side. I get the feeling the remainder of his time at FCA will tell us a lot about whether he will make it at Bayern.

Also, what is the feeling in Germany around Pascal Gross. From the limited Schanzer games I've seen this year, he's been the stand-out player; he's got quite a few goals and assists. That midfielder trio of Morales-Roger-Gross has been very good, a good choice by Hassenhutl. What has happened with Cohen, is he injured?
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Maldeika said:
supercrystal7 said:
What do you make of Selke and Werner by the way? Would be nice to hear your opinions on which is the more promising.
How do you think Meyer compares to a young Gotze?
Do you think Rudiger can be a top defender?
Hojbjerg, Max Arnold or Goretzka which do you think has more potential?

You cannot say anything about them and who is getting to which heights. Until now you just can say that they will make decent Bundesliga professionals - and hopefully they do not get hyped too much as that never was good. The last six or seven years really have shown that. I love to look into the list of the Fritz-Walter-Medal. It's rewarded to the most promising U19, U18 and U17 player of each season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Walter_Medal

They have all a lot talent. Rüdiger reminds a little bit on young Boateng - he needs to calm down and concentrate and work on his distribution but when he works hard and makes the right moves that will not be a problem. He has the physical attributes for a good defender.

Höjbjerg - at him I do not know if he is the biggest talent football wise - atleast the usual fans that love to hype young players do not do it with him. But - I have seen him playing in command for the U23 team of Bayern when he was 17/18 and he was bossing the team - and I have seen him keeping Ibrahimovic calm in his first match for the national team a year ago. For such a young player he already has a real personality - and I think that is something that is very important in addition to all other factors that should not be underestimated.

Look at Emre Can... With 16/17 the most promising of his year. With 18/19 he seemed to get one of this talents who is too arrogant to really work on it. I think he did a lot partying, too. Out of the environment in Leverkusen he seemed to have found it again - and in Liverpool he now somehow looks like he is gonna have a big career coming.

There is so much factors...
Agree regarding Boateng.

But with Hojbjerg I've watched most of his games at FC Augbsurg, as all have been televised. He's performed very well for them, especially against Dortmund and in the first half on Sunday. He seems to have a nack of going unnoticed yet doing a key role. His passing has been good, something very important in Weinzierl's Augsburg side. I get the feeling the remainder of his time at FCA will tell us a lot about whether he will make it at Bayern.

Also, what is the feeling in Germany around Pascal Gross. From the limited Schanzer games I've seen this year, he's been the stand-out player; he's got quite a few goals and assists. That midfielder trio of Morales-Roger-Gross has been very good, a good choice by Hassenhutl. What has happened with Cohen, is he injured?

Can it be that you misinterpreted me? I like Höjbjerg a lot and I think that he will get a great player. I just tried to put him as an example for that stupid hype about young players especially with better technical skills and to try to point out why I think that he will make it. He might not be as shiny but he has that special fighter character and he plays with a lot heart.

I think that a lot of this young players out of the academies in Germany just lack something.

I cannot tell much about Ingolstadt - I just register the table position and I know Hasenhüttl and Linke from the time they played for Bayern. Hasenhüttl was the senior player in Schweinsteiger's and Lahm's U23 team before they started with the professionals. Linke played for Bayern after 1998, played a year for Red Bull Salzburg but came back for a year to end his career as the senior for the same U23 team in 2007/08. There he played the defensive partner for Hummels and later on Badstuber.
The U23 teams of the Bundesliga teams that play in normal leagues are allowed to have 2 or 3 senior players - I like that idea as it aids both, the older professional who can let run out his career on a lower level and the young guys that he can help with his experience.
 
Dietmar Hopp is now officially club owner of 1899 Hoffenheim. The first person in germany to own a football club. The club members of "Hoppenheim" had agreed to the takeover. Hopp had invested an estimated 350 million Euro in team, infrastructure and so on, since he started his investment in 1989.
 
Ruhr said:
Dietmar Hopp is now officially club owner of 1899 Hoffenheim. The first person in germany to own a football club. The club members of "Hoppenheim" had agreed to the takeover. Hopp had invested an estimated 350 million Euro in team, infrastructure and so on, since he started his investment in 1989.

I see anarchy ensuing in Germany after this news. All we need now is a drinks company buying a team and there will be fan protests all over the place.
 
Maldeika said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Maldeika said:
You cannot say anything about them and who is getting to which heights. Until now you just can say that they will make decent Bundesliga professionals - and hopefully they do not get hyped too much as that never was good. The last six or seven years really have shown that. I love to look into the list of the Fritz-Walter-Medal. It's rewarded to the most promising U19, U18 and U17 player of each season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Walter_Medal

They have all a lot talent. Rüdiger reminds a little bit on young Boateng - he needs to calm down and concentrate and work on his distribution but when he works hard and makes the right moves that will not be a problem. He has the physical attributes for a good defender.

Höjbjerg - at him I do not know if he is the biggest talent football wise - atleast the usual fans that love to hype young players do not do it with him. But - I have seen him playing in command for the U23 team of Bayern when he was 17/18 and he was bossing the team - and I have seen him keeping Ibrahimovic calm in his first match for the national team a year ago. For such a young player he already has a real personality - and I think that is something that is very important in addition to all other factors that should not be underestimated.

Look at Emre Can... With 16/17 the most promising of his year. With 18/19 he seemed to get one of this talents who is too arrogant to really work on it. I think he did a lot partying, too. Out of the environment in Leverkusen he seemed to have found it again - and in Liverpool he now somehow looks like he is gonna have a big career coming.

There is so much factors...
Agree regarding Boateng.

But with Hojbjerg I've watched most of his games at FC Augbsurg, as all have been televised. He's performed very well for them, especially against Dortmund and in the first half on Sunday. He seems to have a nack of going unnoticed yet doing a key role. His passing has been good, something very important in Weinzierl's Augsburg side. I get the feeling the remainder of his time at FCA will tell us a lot about whether he will make it at Bayern.

Also, what is the feeling in Germany around Pascal Gross. From the limited Schanzer games I've seen this year, he's been the stand-out player; he's got quite a few goals and assists. That midfielder trio of Morales-Roger-Gross has been very good, a good choice by Hassenhutl. What has happened with Cohen, is he injured?

Can it be that you misinterpreted me? I like Höjbjerg a lot and I think that he will get a great player. I just tried to put him as an example for that stupid hype about young players especially with better technical skills and to try to point out why I think that he will make it. He might not be as shiny but he has that special fighter character and he plays with a lot heart.

I think that a lot of this young players out of the academies in Germany just lack something.

I cannot tell much about Ingolstadt - I just register the table position and I know Hasenhüttl and Linke from the time they played for Bayern. Hasenhüttl was the senior player in Schweinsteiger's and Lahm's U23 team before they started with the professionals. Linke played for Bayern after 1998, played a year for Red Bull Salzburg but came back for a year to end his career as the senior for the same U23 team in 2007/08. There he played the defensive partner for Hummels and later on Badstuber.
The U23 teams of the Bundesliga teams that play in normal leagues are allowed to have 2 or 3 senior players - I like that idea as it aids both, the older professional who can let run out his career on a lower level and the young guys that he can help with his experience.

With Hojbjerg I just meant it as the next player, not that I disagreed with you. I actually agree with you, I'd say he let a lot of the new found fame get to his head with all the "it might be time to leave Bayern" rubbish.
 
bluechampion7891 said:
dortmund 1-0 down at home to mainz within 1st minute

Yep it's almost typical, so sad what a joke they're becoming.

And they've had 2 great chances to score already totally bottling them.
 
karen7 said:
bluechampion7891 said:
dortmund 1-0 down at home to mainz within 1st minute

Just tuned in and saw they were already behind
Can't believe what a mess they are in,Klopps reputation has taken a nose dive

Surely players like Hummels, Reus and Subotic are having untold damage done to their reputations by this season's nightmare?
 
citykev28 said:
karen7 said:
bluechampion7891 said:
dortmund 1-0 down at home to mainz within 1st minute

Just tuned in and saw they were already behind
Can't believe what a mess they are in,Klopps reputation has taken a nose dive

Surely players like Hummels, Reus and Subotic are having untold damage done to their reputations by this season's nightmare?

I always say you win as a team and lose as a team so they all have to share the responsibility,but we all know the buck stops with the manager
 
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