By-elections tonight | Labour take both seats with huge swing from Tories

Yes in their 1993 election the Progressive Conservative Party went from a ruling party who regularly returned 200 seats to winning just 2.

They never recovered and eventually merged with the Canadian Conservatives.

It happened here too but you have to go back to 1918. The Liberal Party went from governing to losing 236 seats, ending up with just 36.

Again they never recovered, though their spirit lives from the merger of SDP-Liberal which eventually became the LibDems.

If a result like this were to happen the Tories would limp on no doubt but the factionalism would likely lead to them splintering. It’s fair to say that even the possibility of this is something of an existential threat to the whole party.
What is interesting about the tories is how undemocratic they are. Basically all the power is with the mps and head office. If they got annihilated the few mps left would have all the power. So what they become post election is all down to the mix of who are left. All the posturing ignores the fact that whoever will follow Rishy has to gain the support of whatever mps are left, they could be quite progressive.
 
You can always trust the Tories to come to the wrong conclusion...

From the BBC...

More Tory calls for government to 'lean into' Conservative voters' values​

John Hayes, who chairs the backbench Common Sense Group of Tory MPs, says while politicians shouldn't dismiss the results of elections, “it would be a huge mistake to extrapolate from these results”.

Hayes says the party should “fight the next election on our territory, not Labour’s” and focus on Conservative priorities - like immigration and public order.

Devizes MP Danny Kruger, who co-chairs the New Conservatives group of mainly "Red Wall" MPs, agrees, telling BBC Radio 4's World at One the Brexit referendum result showed "ordinary people... wanted their country back" - and the government had yet to deliver this.

He describes the results as a "wake-up call", saying the Tories can still win the next election if they get their vote out by standing up for voters' values - on migration, sex education in schools, gender issues and taxation.

Kruger says the PM has the "right instincts" - but needs to lean in, in a more coherent way, as he has already started to do on net zero.
So expect more dog whistle policy, thing is this in my experience once the public turn on you, they don’t turn back, those Tories are just whistling in the dark, besides the fact the red wall tories will be unemployable
 
You can always trust the Tories to come to the wrong conclusion...

From the BBC...

More Tory calls for government to 'lean into' Conservative voters' values​

John Hayes, who chairs the backbench Common Sense Group of Tory MPs, says while politicians shouldn't dismiss the results of elections, “it would be a huge mistake to extrapolate from these results”.

Hayes says the party should “fight the next election on our territory, not Labour’s” and focus on Conservative priorities - like immigration and public order.

Devizes MP Danny Kruger, who co-chairs the New Conservatives group of mainly "Red Wall" MPs, agrees, telling BBC Radio 4's World at One the Brexit referendum result showed "ordinary people... wanted their country back" - and the government had yet to deliver this.

He describes the results as a "wake-up call", saying the Tories can still win the next election if they get their vote out by standing up for voters' values - on migration, sex education in schools, gender issues and taxation.

Kruger says the PM has the "right instincts" - but needs to lean in, in a more coherent way, as he has already started to do on net zero.
Dog whistle to the racists and those gul!ible enough to believe millions of invaders are ruining the country , sensible people will say, hang on, you have had six or seven yrs to control our borders since brexit and you have failed, people with no empathy will also love that dog whistle
 
You can always trust the Tories to come to the wrong conclusion...

From the BBC...

More Tory calls for government to 'lean into' Conservative voters' values​

John Hayes, who chairs the backbench Common Sense Group of Tory MPs, says while politicians shouldn't dismiss the results of elections, “it would be a huge mistake to extrapolate from these results”.

Hayes says the party should “fight the next election on our territory, not Labour’s” and focus on Conservative priorities - like immigration and public order.

Devizes MP Danny Kruger, who co-chairs the New Conservatives group of mainly "Red Wall" MPs, agrees, telling BBC Radio 4's World at One the Brexit referendum result showed "ordinary people... wanted their country back" - and the government had yet to deliver this.

He describes the results as a "wake-up call", saying the Tories can still win the next election if they get their vote out by standing up for voters' values - on migration, sex education in schools, gender issues and taxation.

Kruger says the PM has the "right instincts" - but needs to lean in, in a more coherent way, as he has already started to do on net zero.

Haha what a fucking idiot
 
All the posturing ignores the fact that whoever will follow Rishy has to gain the support of whatever mps are left, they could be quite progressive.

Not really though.

These are the conservatvie MPs of 2019 sorted by the size of their majorities as a % of the electorate, which sould make them the most likely to survive. It's not a progressive group of people.

John Hayes
Matt Warman
Rebecca Harris
John Whittingdale
Giles Watling
Stephen Barclay
Gavin Williamson
Mark Francois

Victoria Atkins
Alex Burghart
Elizabeth Truss
Andrew Percy
Wendy Morton
Nigel Huddleston
Julian Lewis
Caroline Johnson
James Cleverly
Priti Patel

Bill Wiggin
Desmond Swayne
Caroline Dinenage
Gordon Henderson
Alan Mak
Christopher Chope
Thomas Tugendhat
Rishi Sunak
Danny Kruge
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Philip Dunne
Luke Evans
Gareth Davies
John Baron
Martin Vickers
Alicia Kearns
Gareth Bacon
Suella Braverman

Chris Heaton-Harris
Matthew Hancock
Edward Leigh
Kit Malthouse
Kevin Hollinrake
Eleanor Laing
Huw Merriman
Stephen Metcalfe
Nick Gibb
Michael Fabricant
Kemi Badenoch

Helen Whately
Simon Hoare
Julia Lopez
Greg Knight
Flick Drummond
Amanda Milling
James Cartlidge
Tracey Crouch
James Wild
Christopher Pincher
Harriett Baldwin
Sajid Javid
Mike Wood
Charles Walker

I've highlighted the right wing nutters - I'm sure there's more of them those are just the ones I remembered. And yes, this is from 2019 data so some of them are no longer in office, but their seats are still just as tory.

That's the top 60. They're predicted to get about 150 seats. So all of those bolded names, the vanguard of the right wing looney brigade are all there, and will keep the party heading rightwards.
 
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