Cameron suggests cutting housing benefit

de niro said:
speccybob 8 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18567855

The prime minister has suggested that people under the age of 25 could lose the right to housing benefit, as part of moves to cut the welfare bill.

Scrapping the benefit for that age group would save almost £2bn a year.

In an interview in the Mail on Sunday, David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits.

Mr Cameron said the existing system was sending out "strange signals" on working, housing and families.

He called for a wider debate on issues including the cost of benefits.

BBC political correspondent Vicki Young said the article was a clear appeal to core Tory voters and MPs who have criticised Mr Cameron for failing to promote Conservative values.

'Trapped in welfare'
The Mail quoted Mr Cameron contrasting a couple living with their parents and saving before getting married and having children with a couple who have a child and get a council home.

"One is trapped in a welfare system that discourages them from working, the other is doing the right thing and getting no help," he said.

Mr Cameron said the welfare system sent out the signal that people were "better off not working, or working less".

"It encourages people not to work and have children, but we should help people to work and have children," he said.

He said that he also favoured new curbs on the Jobseeker's Allowance.

Downing Street said they were Conservative plans for after the next general election.

Later this week, Mr Cameron will set out more proposals for proposals aimed at cutting the UK's welfare bill.

The Mail said those under consideration included forcing some unemployed to do community work after two years on benefits.

In March, the government's Welfare Reform Act received Royal Assent.

That Act - which applies to England, Scotland and Wales - introduces an annual cap on benefits and overhauls many welfare payments.

good, see this is what we need, bold moves to get us back on track whilst making more cadgers get a job.
well done again dave.
What jobs?
 
Halfpenny said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
Good. It shouldn't be a lifestyle choice. Simple as that. We all know it's abused and people actually have kids to get more benefit. Only problem with this policy is someone else will come out with the opposite and win all the votes from the sections of society that rely on the benefits system to make a living.
That's the thing: for many it isn't a lifestyle choice. You get the odd few who abuse the system, naturally. But with the record this government has on youth unemployment, to say you're going to remove things like housing benefit from these people is downright disgraceful.

The younger sections of society have been treated like dirt by this government. Whether it be the tripling of tuition fees, removal of things like the EMA, the appalling record on youth unemployment and now this. It sickens me.
I agree that this government's record on helping younger setions of society has been woeful in many repsects. But's it disingenuous to make out that until May 2010 all under 25's had great jobs, were living in their own homes and driving around in sports cars.

The government has failed a large number of the young people of this country but it's been doing that for over 50 years, regardless of who was in power.
 
Damocles said:
SWP's back said:
The Mail quoted Mr Cameron contrasting a couple living with their parents and saving before getting married and having children with a couple who have a child and get a council home.

"One is trapped in a welfare system that discourages them from working, the other is doing the right thing and getting no help," he said.

Mr Cameron said the welfare system sent out the signal that people were "better off not working, or working less".

"It encourages people not to work and have children, but we should help people to work and have children,"
Don't know how anyone can argue with that. Good idea I think. Just shocked Thatcher hasn't been blamed.

Edit: On no, she has, hadn't seen Law74 had posted.

Because this assumes the idea that there is a "right way" of living life, which is incredibly arrogant, presumptuous and downright offensive. What is "right" for an 18 year old kid on a council estate will not be "right" for a 23 year old living in Bowden, and vice versa.

No, everyone can live how they wish, it's just that those that wish to have children and not work will have to fund themselves as opposed to relying on the taxpayer to do it and rightly so.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Halfpenny said:
Hamann Pineapple said:
Good. It shouldn't be a lifestyle choice. Simple as that. We all know it's abused and people actually have kids to get more benefit. Only problem with this policy is someone else will come out with the opposite and win all the votes from the sections of society that rely on the benefits system to make a living.
That's the thing: for many it isn't a lifestyle choice. You get the odd few who abuse the system, naturally. But with the record this government has on youth unemployment, to say you're going to remove things like housing benefit from these people is downright disgraceful.

The younger sections of society have been treated like dirt by this government. Whether it be the tripling of tuition fees, removal of things like the EMA, the appalling record on youth unemployment and now this. It sickens me.
I agree that this government's record on helping younger setions of society has been woeful in many repsects. But's it disingenuous to make out that until May 2010 all under 25's had great jobs, were living in their own homes and driving around in sports cars.

The government has failed a large number of the young people of this country but it's been doing that for over 50 years, regardless of who was in power.
Oh I agree that no government has had an absolutely terrific record, it was after all Labour who introduced top-up fees in the first place for example. I was born 2 years after Thatcher left office so I obviously don't have first-hand experience of that period of time, but this is certainly the worst I've seen it in my lifetime.
 
Mikecini said:
David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits.

Fucking lying ****. This is how the twats have repeatedly gotten into number 10.
By making policies the majority of the country that vote agree with?
 
SWP's back said:
Mikecini said:
David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits.

Fucking lying ****. This is how the twats have repeatedly gotten into number 10.
By making policies the majority of the country that vote agree with?

[insert cheap 'they didn't win a majority' response here]
 
is good thinking, these girls that get tubbed to get an house will end up with their parents, funny as fuck as bad parenting drops on their doorstep. strapped up with screaming kids and that.
love it, well done dave.
 
Halfpenny said:
SWP's back said:
Mikecini said:
Fucking lying ****. This is how the twats have repeatedly gotten into number 10.
By making policies the majority of the country that vote agree with?

[insert cheap 'they didn't win a majority' response here]
But the coalition is the first government in 50 years to actually have the majority of the popular vote.
 
SWP's back said:
Damocles said:
SWP's back said:
Don't know how anyone can argue with that. Good idea I think. Just shocked Thatcher hasn't been blamed.

Edit: On no, she has, hadn't seen Law74 had posted.

Because this assumes the idea that there is a "right way" of living life, which is incredibly arrogant, presumptuous and downright offensive. What is "right" for an 18 year old kid on a council estate will not be "right" for a 23 year old living in Bowden, and vice versa.

No, everyone can live how they wish, it's just that those that wish to have children and not work will have to fund themselves as opposed to relying on the taxpayer to do it and rightly so.
Great idea but what do we do with the children let them die in the street if you can come up with the answer to that one i might even vote for call me Dave myself.
 

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