Can We Use A 3 Man Midfield?

[weare8kyk]

Hart
Micah Kompany Nasty Clichy

Milner Fernandhino


Navas Silva

Aguero Jovetic


Problem solved

Both Milner and Fernandiho will roam and cover bases for each other. on the right we have milner navas and Micah to attack, on the left we have Jovetic and clichy and silva to attack. Silva can change position with Navas easily. Aguero can draw back and connect with silva or Fernandhino. Jovetic will draw back to cover left middle field.

Without YaYa we will be the fast team we set out to be

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Against Hull Huddlestone played a 1-2 and walked/jogged though the centre of the pitch with the ball and Yaya and Fernandinho let him go between them and they just looked at each other as if to say "well I'm not tackling him, that's your job".

The thing is neither of them are that sort of player where that is a big part of their game.

I would play a 3 man midfield with both of them plus someone else, or a two man midfield including one of the two of them at once.

 

[Mr. Aguia]

If we don't we are gonna continue to give up a lot of chances. Last year we played very narrow making it more congested up the spine making it very hard for to opposition to attack. Now we are playing very wide, leaving a lot more space up the spine and fewer players to get through. Becomes a bigger problem wwhen Yaya decides he's not gonna track back. Having Milner or Rodwell will at least add another body for the oppositin to get threw and both will track back and press the ball so we can win the ball back higher up the pitch. Which is supposed to be the whole point of MP's system.

 

[blueparrot]

If we don't we are gonna continue to give up a lot of chances. Last year we played very narrow making it more congested up the spine making it very hard for to opposition to attack. Now we are playing very wide, leaving a lot more space up the spine and fewer players to get through. Becomes a bigger problem wwhen Yaya decides he's not gonna track back. Having Milner or Rodwell will at least add another body for the oppositin to get threw and both will track back and press the ball so we can win the ball back higher up the pitch. Which is supposed to be the whole point of MP's system.

The whole point of playing higher up the pitch is for all the players, attackers and midfield to be pressing when not in possesion, as there is little space in front of the defence when every one is doing there job and pressing ,we should not need more than one defensive midfielder. Bayern and Barca both only have one Martinez and Busquets,

 

[Uptop]

I've posted about this a few times regarding Yaya's role in the team.

With the quick high intensity pressing and wide 442 formation Pelle seems to want to play, him and Fernandinho are not up to the job currently in the middle (hopefully with time it will come). We have seen how vs fairly weak opposition how players stroll through our midfield without being tracked or tackled. I would be very worried about playing a midfield two of Yaya / Fernandinho vs a team such as Chelsea with very quick agile midfielders as Fernandinho has to do an huge amount of work to cover for Yaya's lack of mobility.

I would like to see a three man midfield tried out in a similar way to Juvi play with Pirlo given a free role and Vidal / Marchisio doing the hard work. For us I would give Yaya the free role to run from deep and play Rodwell/Fernandinho/Milner/Garcia to do the defensive work, one of them joining in with attacks occasionally and the other staying back to break up counters. (We seem very vulnerable to counters when we lose the ball)

So far I think we have been lacking a link between attack and midfield when playing the 442 formation, Navas is getting double/triple teamed down the right and we have practically no width on the left with Clichy (no threat) and Nasri/Silva coming inside every time. I think 433 (4231 when attacking) would provide that link with Yaya playing in behind the striker and hopefully would allow the player on the left to stay wider.

I can see how playing Yaya in this postion would mean dropping a forward to the bench but vs weaker opposition I think Nasri or Silva could play the same role in a midfield 3 but be more attacking minded and hopefully the lesser defensive qualities wouldn't be missed.

The problem we have is trying to fit Yaya into the team as he is such a good player but he doesn't necessarily fit into our team without creating a problem.

 

[paphos-mcfc]

A good DM is what we need so 3 for me would be a yes.

 

[6one]

Personally I don't want to see a three man midfield we played it a lot in Mancinis first season and we would still struggle to break teams down. I would rather we played what Bayern and Dortmund have used so efficiently, the 4-2-3-1 which would get Silva in his best position behind the striker and loads of width with Navas on the right and a another winger on the left. Instead we seem to be basically playing the exact same way that we did under Mancini except with a bit more width with Navas. Still early days yet though we haven't seen the best of Fernandinho who is still settling in.

Cant see us playing with three in the midfield regularly as it would mean a lot of attacking players are left on the bench. Surprised we kept Dzeko tbh, really don't see the need of him and negredo.

4-2-3-1 is practically the same system as 4-3-3, if we play Fernandinho, yaya and Silva in Midfield like this:

-Yaya------Fernandinho
---------Silva-----------------

and then a front 3 of:

Navas------------------------Aguero
--------------Negredo---------------

Which together would look like:

---------Yaya-------------Fernandinho
--------------------Silva----------------------
Navas---------------------------------------Aguero
-------------------Negredo--------------------------

which is really 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 :)

No it's different to what people are suggesting.

I agree with deafguy, Jovetic on the wing with one striker will give us greater balance I believe.

 

[ancoats]

we need to settle down the new players and a setup with yaya not defending deep in midfield what the manager's see in him in a holding role the boy is not a defending midfield in my book not got the legs to run up and down

play him in the hole behind a striker with silva and navas or nasri wide
we must play that way in the champions league teams will play 4.5.1 and keep the ball we must match them and not get out played in the middle that way we can get the ball back and hurt teams on the break

 

[cibaman]

I think its an awful idea.

Too congested. The threats posed by Yaya and Fernandhino stem from their ability to get forward from deep. Start them 20m ahead of a defensive midfielder and they will be easily nullified.

Can you imagine us playing Palace at home with Garcia, Yaya and Fernandhino in midfield and Aguero relegated to the bench?

I'm not talking about playing them as attacking midfielders, I'm talking about playing them either side of a better tackler, that way they can both get forward without having to worry that as soon as we lose the ball it's up to the defenders because Javi Garcia or whoever it may be just stays back in front of the defence.

Agreed, that's why I asked whether it should only be used for away games.

-- Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:52 am --

I agree with the three man midfield but the answer is to drop Silva deeper to play just in front of Ya Ya and Dinho. He has the ability to turn defence into attack with a single pass but is also great at keeping possession.

That way, an attacking three of say Jovetic, Negredo and Aguero could concentrate on doing what they do best.

But does that solve the problem of being left exposed? All three of those midfielders like getting forward and have limited defensive capabilities.

I don't disagree with playing 3 in midfield. Just not Yaya, Fernandhino and Garcia. Not even just in away games. There has to be some creativity there.

 

[southstandblue27]

Silva will start on the left but will naturally drift in