Cardiff City Vs City Pre match Discussion Thread

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Should play the same side that we saw on Monday apart from Garcia coming in for Kompany if he is injured ( would go with Garcia over Boyata due to his threat in the air from set pieces).

Can't believe some people are putting Milner in for Navas, time and time again we struggled on our travels last year as we had no pace or width to break teams down, Navas will be crucial for matches like on Sunday.

Would also stick with Dzeko who has been awesome recently so I don't see any point in rotating our attack.

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welsh_andy said:
Tricky_Trev said:
welsh_andy said:
surely you dont change a winning format imo. if it doesnt work at cardiff, then yes changes, but dont see the sense in changing for sake of it tbh
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Equally though, no two games/opposition are the same. So the best team at home v Newcastle may not be the best team away to Cardiff. I would hope that the manager and his technical staff will have identified the strengths and weaknesses of Cardiff, formulated a plan, and will then pick the best 11 players available to execute that plan. Those 11 players may or may not be the same 11 that beat Newcastle. It's not "changing for the sake of it", it's tactics - one would hope. The "if it aint broke, don't fix it" school of thought is very naive and simplistic in my opinion. Hence why we are fans, not football managers. I am certainly not averse to us making unforced changes to a team that won 4-0 at home. It depends how Pellegrini wants to tweak our tactics.
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i no manager for sure, but i dont see cardiff as a threat tbh, they dont create many chances, their defence isnt anything special, west ham had a lorry full of chances against them. its a 3 pointer all day long imo.
but tbh i dont care who MP picks as long as we come away with 3 points
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Sunderland shouldn't have been a threat last season or the years before but we haven't scored a goal their in years. No easy games in the prem.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
Should play the same side that we saw on Monday apart from Garcia coming in for Kompany if he is injured ( would go with Garcia over Boyata due to his threat in the air from set pieces).

Can't believe some people are putting Milner in for Navas, time and time again we struggled on our travels last year as we had no pace or width to break teams down, Navas will be crucial for matches like on Sunday.

Would also stick with Dzeko who has been awesome recently so I don't see any point in rotating our attack.

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welsh_andy said:
Tricky_Trev said:
Equally though, no two games/opposition are the same. So the best team at home v Newcastle may not be the best team away to Cardiff. I would hope that the manager and his technical staff will have identified the strengths and weaknesses of Cardiff, formulated a plan, and will then pick the best 11 players available to execute that plan. Those 11 players may or may not be the same 11 that beat Newcastle. It's not "changing for the sake of it", it's tactics - one would hope. The "if it aint broke, don't fix it" school of thought is very naive and simplistic in my opinion. Hence why we are fans, not football managers. I am certainly not averse to us making unforced changes to a team that won 4-0 at home. It depends how Pellegrini wants to tweak our tactics.
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i no manager for sure, but i dont see cardiff as a threat tbh, they dont create many chances, their defence isnt anything special, west ham had a lorry full of chances against them. its a 3 pointer all day long imo.
but tbh i dont care who MP picks as long as we come away with 3 points
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Sunderland shouldn't have been a threat last season or the years before but we haven't scored a goal their in years. No easy games in the prem.
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Nastasic will start in place of Kompany seeing as he has been back in training since the end of last week.
 
Firasdo said:
Don't change a winnig team.
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A dated saying. You adapt to your opposition, find their weaknesses, plan a team around exploiting their weakness and countering their strengths.
 
One of the talking points is no doubt who plays between Dzeko and Negredo.

I really want to see Negredo but Dzeko put a MOTM performance in on Monday and got the award for it, if we drop him I just think it's inevitable his confidence will go like it did under Mancini.

I don't think we can afford to risk that to be honest.
 
To beat a welsh team we shouls play heart in net and Aguero up front, the of the places could be filled with in season sheep. Its all about distraction distraction distraction......!! ;^)
 
sam-caddick said:
One of the talking points is no doubt who plays between Dzeko and Negredo.

I really want to see Negredo but Dzeko put a MOTM performance in on Monday and got the award for it, if we drop him I just think it's inevitable his confidence will go like it did under Mancini.

I don't think we can afford to risk that to be honest.
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I don't think dropping him for a game is the issue, it's all about how it's done. Mancini often didn't talk to players and the players didn't know who was starting until right before the game. I remember in one of Dzeko's interviews in a game he started he said he didn't know he was starting that day. Mancini rarely talked to players.

So I don't think sitting Dzeko will be an issue, but if Dzeko is going to be our main striker, as Pellegrini has said, and he's performing well then Dzeko should play just to gel with the team for when the tough fixtures come (no disrespect to Cardiff).

Personally I would like to see Jovetic getting a chance in place of Aguero.
 
For the people saying start Negredo instead of Dzeko.... are you serious? You always put in the most in form player if you want to win. The whole point is for strikers to compete for spots, so when a dude puts in a MOTM performance he should be rewarded, not benched. That would just be confusing and negative. All Negredo managed to do in last match is send one ball into space and tap in a rebound that the keeper saved from yet another Dzeko header lol. If that had counted it would have been the 3rd goal Dzeko created. I like Negredo, he's a tank, but lets not coddle and overrate players just because they come from Spain or have Latin names.

Aguero and Dzeko up front from the start, all the way. Negredo comes on in second half.
 
Petetheblu said:
To beat a welsh team we shouls play heart in net and Aguero up front, the of the places could be filled with in season sheep. Its all about distraction distraction distraction......!! ;^)
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Think you mean Hart , don't you Pete ?

And i wouldn't go mentioning sheep in Wales , whether they're 'in-season' or not !!
 
black mamba said:
Petetheblu said:
To beat a welsh team we shouls play heart in net and Aguero up front, the of the places could be filled with in season sheep. Its all about distraction distraction distraction......!! ;^)
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Think you mean Hart , don't you ?

And i wouldn't go mentioning sheep in Wales , whether they're 'in-season' or not !!
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Sheep are 'in-season' all year round in Wales.
 
We just need a solid win without conceding. With VK out for the foreseeable, we really must not let our great start slip away again.
More ruthless in front of goal, we cannot afford to let these opportunities of a great goal difference pass by. Other teams will not be so wasteful.
 
rnblade said:
We just need a solid win without conceding. With VK out for the foreseeable, we really must not let our great start slip away again.
More ruthless in front of goal, we cannot afford to let these opportunities of a great goal difference pass by. Other teams will not be so wasteful.
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Out For the foreseeable future?
 
Given the choice, I would've picked Negredo up top, rather than Dzeko, for this one, as Alvaro's superior pace, strength, and ability to hold the ball up, will be much more suited to the quick counter-attacking game I expect us to employ at Cardiff

However I think Pelle will eventually decide to avoid as much disruption as possible by sticking to the same team (bar Komps) that did so well against Newcastle last Monday night.


_____________________Hart________________

__Zabba__Fernandinho__Lescot__Clichy__

____________________Milner_______________

__________________Yaya__Silva____________

______Navas____________________Aguero__

___________________Dzeko________________


Substitutes: Pantilimon, Kolorov, Garcia, Rodwell, Jovetic, Nasri, Negredo

Result: Red Taffs 1-2 CITY

Scorers:
Augero 2 F/L
 
Can see this being a tough game. They'll be well up for it. Sort of game we have struggled in the last couple of seasons. Will be a lively atmosphere and a physical game. Be interesting to see how the likes of navas and negredo take to this type of match. They'll give us more of a game than newcastle did on monday thats for sure.

1-0 dzeko
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
_____________________Hart________________

__Zabba__Fernandinho__Lescot__Clichy__

____________________Milner_______________

__________________Yaya__Silva____________

______Navas____________________Aguero__

___________________Dzeko________________
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Are you high on PCP?
 
I'm quite confident it will be the same lineup from the Newcastle game except for Garcia in for the injured Kompany.
 
One of the all-time great managers (cant remember who exactly, sorry) said "it's all about in-game adjustments".

I would start the same team that started vs. Newcastle (minus Komps, depending on his status).

All discussions Dzeko/Negredo/Jovetic etc. are futile - because of in-game adjustments that you have to make anyway. If your starting lineup that crushed Newcastle doesnt work - you recognize it, then you drop Dzeko (for example) or anyone else. Until then you stick with what worked for you.
 
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