Rammy Blue
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Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
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Eccles Blue
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Oh my goodness are we going to go through another ITK scenario where nothing can be revealed because it is all behind closed doors!!!!!!!! And posters saying send me a pm and I will tell you!!!!
Rammy Blue said:BillyShears said:NQCitizen said:Only seen OS highlights, but isn't Zab losing his man on both corners a bit of an issue?
Got the impression Zaba had something other than football on his mind yesterday...
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Oh my goodness are we going to go through another ITK scenario where nothing can be revealed because it is all behind closed doors!!!!!!!! And posters saying send me a pm and I will tell you!!!!
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Haha. Not at all. Was a general reflection on his performance and how limited it was. Looked more like the defender who arrived at City a few years back rather than the beast of last season.
Eccles Blue said:Rammy Blue said:BillyShears said:Got the impression Zaba had something other than football on his mind yesterday...
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Oh my goodness are we going to go through another ITK scenario where nothing can be revealed because it is all behind closed doors!!!!!!!! And posters saying send me a pm and I will tell you!!!!
Haha. Not at all. Was a general reflection on his performance and how limited it was. Looked more like the defender who arrived at City a few years back rather than the beast of last season.
Eccles Blue
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Phewww thank you for sorting that one out for me Billy, I'm not sure I could have coped with another month of 'I'm telling you I know what it is' etc.!! It's bad enough coping with the reaction to yesterday. :-) Zab will be fine, I think yesterday they all had a bad day at the office, it happens and although I am not happy about it I am going to try to move on and stick with my glass half full philosophy, Thanks again
BillyShears said:Eccles Blue said:Rammy Blue said:Que?
Oh my goodness are we going to go through another ITK scenario where nothing can be revealed because it is all behind closed doors!!!!!!!! And posters saying send me a pm and I will tell you!!!!
Haha. Not at all. Was a general reflection on his performance and how limited it was. Looked more like the defender who arrived at City a few years back rather than the beast of last season.
Phewww thank you for sorting that one out for me Billy, I'm not sure I could have coped with another month of 'I'm telling you I know what it is' etc.!! It's bad enough coping with the reaction to yesterday. :-) Zab will be fine, I think yesterday they all had a bad day at the office, it happens and although I am not happy about it I am going to try to move on and stick with my glass half full philosophy, Thanks again
NQCitizen
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
I've always believed there's question marks over his positioning and I just hope the new tactics don't see that part of his game exposed more. Normally Kompany or Milner essentially play back up to him.
BillyShears said:Eccles Blue said:Rammy Blue said:Que?
Oh my goodness are we going to go through another ITK scenario where nothing can be revealed because it is all behind closed doors!!!!!!!! And posters saying send me a pm and I will tell you!!!!
Haha. Not at all. Was a general reflection on his performance and how limited it was. Looked more like the defender who arrived at City a few years back rather than the beast of last season.
I've always believed there's question marks over his positioning and I just hope the new tactics don't see that part of his game exposed more. Normally Kompany or Milner essentially play back up to him.
malg
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Yep. He was dog shit yesterday, but so were a few others. Yaya seems to be the one carrying the load for yesterday, but I'd personally put a lot of it down to Zab and the defence. It's early days, and I'd say it's easier to sort out problems like this early on.NQCitizen said:Only seen OS highlights, but isn't Zab losing his man on both corners a bit of an issue?
kaz7
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Am i being naive but surely defending a corner is about the basics of not losing your man regardless of what style we are playing?.Losing concentration at a corner i cant get my head around especially for experienced players like zab
Am i being naive but surely defending a corner is about the basics of not losing your man regardless of what style we are playing?.Losing concentration at a corner i cant get my head around especially for experienced players like zab
Rascal
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
The one good thing about losing yesterday is Pellers will have learnt a hell of a lot more from that defeat than from the win against the Geordies.
I expect there will be plenty of drills this week in defending corners. Because Hull will see a chink in our armour.
I have read a fair few threads today and most are the usual BM knee jerk attaching blame threads. I suppose some blues feel better for saying such a body is shit, he was shit the defence was shit, the midfield was blah blah blah but rarely does anyone give the opposition credit for a job well done. Fact is Cardiff did a job on us and deserved the win not because we were shit as we will play worse than yesterday and win.
So its how Pellers reacts and i expect he will react well.
The one good thing about losing yesterday is Pellers will have learnt a hell of a lot more from that defeat than from the win against the Geordies.
I expect there will be plenty of drills this week in defending corners. Because Hull will see a chink in our armour.
I have read a fair few threads today and most are the usual BM knee jerk attaching blame threads. I suppose some blues feel better for saying such a body is shit, he was shit the defence was shit, the midfield was blah blah blah but rarely does anyone give the opposition credit for a job well done. Fact is Cardiff did a job on us and deserved the win not because we were shit as we will play worse than yesterday and win.
So its how Pellers reacts and i expect he will react well.
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Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
Welcome to the forum. Great 1st post.
BlueJonny said:Please allow me to inject some positivity into this thread!
I seem to have seen the game a little differently to most on here.
I have to say congratulations to Cardiff but from memory you could sum up their entire attacking contribution to the game with:
-One good goal
-Winning a couple of corners
-One long range shot straight at Hart
-Two chances from pretty rank passes that anyone other than Garcia would have dealt with
I have read a couple of match reports saying that Cardiff were superb but this is wide of the mark. I must say the effort they put into the game was remarkable and they were helped by a number of lengthy stoppages in play and the mind-boggling handball decision against Silva (when it rolled across his shoulder) just as he was about to tee up a shot! But that is exactly how to play us. You can't let us have the ball as Newcastle found out!
I didn't think we did a whole lot wrong all in all. This was not like Southampton away! We played with much more freedom and invention than that but it just didn't quite come off. We didn't seem to consistently press the ball and I don't think we moved the ball quick enough particularly at the back. In Garcia we do seem to have found the only Spaniard who isn't comfortable on the ball and as we all know this is Lescott's weakness. When you have two poor ball playing centre backs like that you find that Yaya and Fernandinho have to drop back to receive the ball when they could be receiving it in more advanced positions. Nastasic and Rekik are both very good at that pass that breaks the midfield line, as is Kompany to a slightly lesser extent. Haven't seen much of Demechelis but I would imagine this is part of the thinking.
I think the goals were uncharacteristic but for the first goal Clichy had to do much better than that. Kyim wasn't moving at speed and there was plenty of cover inside him. A simple slide would have stopped the cross. No idea what happened with the corners but I'm sure we'll sort that out.
But the positives for me were:
- Dzeko looks good still. Great to see him playing with confidence finally!
- We completely dominated possession and won the ball back quickly at times. Our general play was pretty good!
- Fernandinho is a much more progressive passer than Barry and Garcia and leaves us less exposed on the break with his pressing. He will, I reckon, prove to be a better player than Paulinho
- More people are running in behind. This was a big problem last year. Unfortunately Yaya wasn't able to find them today.
- Navas will improve. He's a little bundle of positivity (exact opposite of Nasri)
- I can't remember Aguero slipping once!
I believe we are the strongest team in the prem this year. Chelsea look decent but were really poor against Villa and deserved to lose. They lack creativity from deep and I think that will cost them this year. Take Van Persie out of United's team and you're not left with much. They allow teams to have a lot of the ball and that will mean dropped points in an improving league.
Think positively!
Welcome to the forum. Great 1st post.
Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
A game we dominated aside from a few long ball breakaways by Cardiff and two excellent whipped in corners. Unfortunately for us they made the most of their few opportunities aided by piss poor defending from us.
It was like groundhog day as went sideways and back too many times and didn't get shots off quick enough as usual. Where was the pressing snd pace we were promised?
A huge wake up call for everyonr concerned! !
A game we dominated aside from a few long ball breakaways by Cardiff and two excellent whipped in corners. Unfortunately for us they made the most of their few opportunities aided by piss poor defending from us.
It was like groundhog day as went sideways and back too many times and didn't get shots off quick enough as usual. Where was the pressing snd pace we were promised?
A huge wake up call for everyonr concerned! !