Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

jrb said:
Let's be blunt about it.

We had a team filled with quality players, including world class players.

Cardiff had a team filled with average players. No disrespect.

However you look at it, we should have won that game today..

Agreed our big hitters didn't show up. Poor games for Yaya, Aguero, and Silva. Couple that with Cardiff being pumped up and fighting for that football for the duration of the game. I hope they put that amount of effort in when down the line they play the rags, Chealski etc.

The fact of the matter too many of our main players had off days. We win as a team and lose as a team.
 
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As much as we need a cb we also need a quality left back,clichy going forward is absoulute shit,I can't remember him providing even one assist for us
 
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BosnianDragon said:
Blueband Brother said:
This was a disappointing performance from the players and the manager (in terms of his substitutions). The lingering and ever so infuriating tendency to approach away games at a slow pace, basically just going through the motions and hope that something happens was on display today.I could not help but shout quicker!! quicker!!!, move!!, move!!, up the tempo!!, for most of the first half and it reminded me a lot about last season. Nobody wanted to take responsibility, nobody wanted to shoot and nobody really wanted to get stuck in.

We lacked leadership and spirit all over the park in contrast with the Cardiff players and on the balance of things their honesty in approach and their defensive hard work more or less made then deserve something out of the game.

Aguero really worried me today. I thought, by selling Tevez we have freed ourselves from the attacking approach of putting your head down in and around the box and trying to do everything yourself but Aguero showed that today and was terrible. Pellegrini should have taken him off in the second half. But I hope Aguero's attacking attitude today is a one off and he will not start being selfish in good positions like Tevez.

Yaya toure sat way too deep to have any influence on the attack. I once pondered that Kompany is the most important attacking player in the squad and I am now beginning to belive it. This is because he provides that leadership and drive from the back with the ball, which then inspires the other players to move foward and build up momentum on offense. So Kompany being injured is a big loss but defensively and offensively.

Dzeko was fairly subdued today but I still think he posed more treat with the ball and should not have been substituted but his injury will be a cover for that. Navas should have also been on the pitch and the decision to substitute him after we scored was strange indeed.

Ultimately it was our lack of leadership during set pieces that cost us the game and everybody is to blame for that.

The only player that did a respectable and honest shift today was David Silva.

It is easy to get carried away with negativity but this was indeed very embarrassing and I fear we may have lost some fear factor that we gained after the first match because most teams will now be emboldened against us particularly away from home.

After the wigan match, I posted something about precedence and how it is the word I fear the most. Pellegrini may now begin to realize that his work is significantly more difficult that he thought. We will still win the league but it will take a lot of diagnosis, purification and insightful man management by Pellegrini to really possess and inspire the players to be ready for every game and hope they don't let him and the club down once again as a consequence of precedence.

On the bright side..

We are only 2 games in and nobody expects any team to win every match. So we have to move on and hope that the team learn from this experience and become stronger, more focused and have greater contempt for halfheartedness.

Great post, agree 100%
99%.
Silva was fucking rancid, worst 90m since he joined City. I'd bet he gave the ball away 20 times. The lad Medel did a proper job on him
 
Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

bobmcfc said:
Marvin said:
bobmcfc said:
It does because our English players were pretty shite on the whole


Bridge -shite
Barry - was good now considered.... Wait for it..... Shite
Lescott - pretty shite
Sinclair - lol

I will give you Milner and to some degree rodwell if he can stay fit but on the whole overseas players are vastly superior
But 50% of the point was that drive is the issue with the current squad's failings. Utd were 11 points better than us because they had the drive which took a "lesser" squad way above us. In fact "desire" and will to win is just as important as any other quality which I why it is stupid to look at City's and Utd's team on paper and assume ours is better. Their players have learned to always be up for it.

We were told the deficiency was down to Mancini. Should have backed him and got rid of the players who weren't prepared to do it all over again

Their drive may be down to their Posession of Alex ferguson and the fact they had a well established core of academy players like giggs,scholes Neville etc. we should have backed and stuck with Mancini, he wanted certain player but didn't get them, he lost players too. It's rare a manager has 100% control over ever aspect of a club and yes there was a big power struggle. Mancini lost. The players got their way and I wonder if they can even be arsed again now they hold all the cards. United had a hard nosed, tough manager who was renowned for his lack of taking shit. Players however big got cocky they went through the door. It was all on his terms and if a player had lost his use then he was out. Foreign players are vastly superior and cheaper than English ones but the key to the ignition is having the kind of set up where nobody undermines the job of a successful manager
Maybe. That argument looks a lot stronger today than it did before
 
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bluefitz17 said:
Before I start please accept my apologies for the following rant _ I have come in from watching it in the pub - with baying, gloating reds in attendance and I have a couple of vodka's on board BUT..............

I feel really despondent this evening and I'm not usually like that - always a cup half full person - bought my first City season ticket in 1977 - so have seen them through thick, thin and even thinner...........

but what really ticks me off is that I've fallen for all the hype after last week - I couldn't stop grinning from ear to ear after the performance against Newcastle - thought they looked magnificent. In retrospect now - it was probably a measure of how crap Newcastle is.......

As I said I've seen worse performances than this over the years - but I feel cheated that I've fallen for all the hype - from the club, chairman and Pellers - they're the one's that have told us we're going to greater heights, win 5 trophies in 5 years etc, etc - I feel mugged that I've been gullible enough to fall for it and believe it - do they not know that we are CITY - and it's not in our genetic make up to do those things............
Went out today in high hopes, excited, backed them 3-0, with a side bet of Dzeko for a hat trick - oh when will I learn..........

Feel let down by so many players - my biggest gripe is against Joe Hart - he needs to pay less attention to washing his hair with head and Shoulders and being a cat walk model and concentrate on being a goalie - I think Pants deserves a chance

Anyway - apologies for the negativity - but I'm working tomorrow and off I will go and face the barrage of ridicule from the reds - will it ever end.......................................................


+1

and another thing i have to say to remind myself in order to get through this Typical City
 
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hertsblue said:
Just shows importance of set pieces. Cardiff had 3 and scored 2 from corners. We had 8 and zilch. We are pretty bad at corners
Agreed !! We need to get our defending from corners sorted out and quick. Our last 2 c/L campaigns have ended before they began due largely to our inability to defend from corners. Zaba was done twice today by TJ Campbell. You can have all the best players in the word but if you can't defend properly from set pieces its not happening.
 
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GXCity said:
Come on lads, the Rags got beat first game last season and pissed it by 11 points. If Chelsea get beat tomorrow would you write them off?

We lost ONE game with 36 to play. MP will learn a lot from today and, as painful as it is now, this will put us in good stead for the season ahead.

2 comments.

1. The scum lost to Everton away, not fooking Cardiff FFS. (And incidentally, we can probably look forward to our usual Everton away defeat later in the season.)

2. The winning team this year can probably afford to lose no more than 4 or maximum 5 games. Given the top teams will likely win most or all of their home games, that means teams can probably expect to lose at least a couple of games away against their competitors. It's very unlikely we will win away at every one of Arsensl, Chelsea, Rags, Spurs and Liverpool. I wish.

Even if we only lose a couple of those games, it means we can now afford to lose probably only 1 single banana skin game all season. We had a couple of mulligans, and we have blown 1 of them already, on day 8 of the season, against a team that I will bet will be relegated.

Basically, a right royal fuck up.
 
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Ed1 said:
bluefitz17 said:
Before I start please accept my apologies for the following rant _ I have come in from watching it in the pub - with baying, gloating reds in attendance and I have a couple of vodka's on board BUT..............

I feel really despondent this evening and I'm not usually like that - always a cup half full person - bought my first City season ticket in 1977 - so have seen them through thick, thin and even thinner...........

but what really ticks me off is that I've fallen for all the hype after last week - I couldn't stop grinning from ear to ear after the performance against Newcastle - thought they looked magnificent. In retrospect now - it was probably a measure of how crap Newcastle is.......

As I said I've seen worse performances than this over the years - but I feel cheated that I've fallen for all the hype - from the club, chairman and Pellers - they're the one's that have told us we're going to greater heights, win 5 trophies in 5 years etc, etc - I feel mugged that I've been gullible enough to fall for it and believe it - do they not know that we are CITY - and it's not in our genetic make up to do those things............
Went out today in high hopes, excited, backed them 3-0, with a side bet of Dzeko for a hat trick - oh when will I learn..........

Feel let down by so many players - my biggest gripe is against Joe Hart - he needs to pay less attention to washing his hair with head and Shoulders and being a cat walk model and concentrate on being a goalie - I think Pants deserves a chance

Anyway - apologies for the negativity - but I'm working tomorrow and off I will go and face the barrage of ridicule from the reds - will it ever end.......................................................


+1

and another thing i have to say to remind myself in order to get through this Typical City
2 for fucking 1...
sniffety sniff sniff sniff
what a pile of fucking shite posts...
after two games?
go on,fuck off back to inbred café you little rats..
 
Re: Cardiff Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread

Marvin said:
bobmcfc said:
Marvin said:
But 50% of the point was that drive is the issue with the current squad's failings. Utd were 11 points better than us because they had the drive which took a "lesser" squad way above us. In fact "desire" and will to win is just as important as any other quality which I why it is stupid to look at City's and Utd's team on paper and assume ours is better. Their players have learned to always be up for it.

We were told the deficiency was down to Mancini. Should have backed him and got rid of the players who weren't prepared to do it all over again

Their drive may be down to their Posession of Alex ferguson and the fact they had a well established core of academy players like giggs,scholes Neville etc. we should have backed and stuck with Mancini, he wanted certain player but didn't get them, he lost players too. It's rare a manager has 100% control over ever aspect of a club and yes there was a big power struggle. Mancini lost. The players got their way and I wonder if they can even be arsed again now they hold all the cards. United had a hard nosed, tough manager who was renowned for his lack of taking shit. Players however big got cocky they went through the door. It was all on his terms and if a player had lost his use then he was out. Foreign players are vastly superior and cheaper than English ones but the key to the ignition is having the kind of set up where nobody undermines the job of a successful manager
Maybe. That argument looks a lot stronger today than it did before

Maybe we got played when everything was put at the feet of Mancini, he wasn't perfect and made mistakes but I think I can see the same think happening again with our new manager. Maybe those who put on the shirt, those who sit in the boardroom, coaches, little shit stirring assistant sock washers who were annoyed because the manager didn't crack them a smile every morning need to carry some of the blame too. I think we perhaps lacked a little understanding of the structure of our club and the need to not listen to the tittle tattle about what a mean old tyrant we had at the club.
 

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