Carlos Tevez

[dachoosen1]

Replaced him for half a season when he had a holiday no problem, Dzeko his scored more in the last two seasons and Aguero has a similar work rate and more end product.

 

[berniethebusman]

Anyone now how much were saving on wages if he went? 8.5m is to low imo but could see with his wages leaving too how it could be seen as good business by the powers that be.

-- Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:28 am --

Replaced him for half a season when he had a holiday no problem, Dzeko his scored more in the last two seasons and Aguero has a similar work rate and more end product.

Try remembering that season a little harder.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Only suarez for workrate would replace Tevez imo.

Jonathan Walters? Paul Dickov?

Work rate takes you so far, skill and brainpower takes you further.
Work rate is vastly overrated in the British game.
Argentina seems to do ok without him, as will we.

No it isn't, its essential in our league & its what makes english sides do so well in europe Chelsea, Liverpool & the rags none had the most gifted side in the champs league when they won it but they all had a great work ethic.

That was great, but football has moved on. An end product is required and unfortunately, Carlos is too selfish. He looks like he runs about a lot as his positional sense isn't great.

Liken it to last ditch defenders- it looks great when they make that tackle, but then compare it to VK. He doesn't need to lunge in as he knows where to be.

 

[dzeko01]

Replaced him for half a season when he had a holiday no problem, Dzeko his scored more in the last two seasons and Aguero has a similar work rate and more end product.

nah aguero;s work rate is poor compared to tevez or suarez.

 

[citytill1die84]

Hell of a job to replace Tevez. Like losing 3 players.

Only suarez for workrate would replace Tevez imo.

Jonathan Walters? Paul Dickov?

Work rate takes you so far, skill and brainpower takes you further.
Work rate is vastly overrated in the British game.
Argentina seems to do ok without him, as will we.

None of those player could lase the boots of Tevez. I'm talking about a player of similar quality.

 

[dachoosen1]

Would guess around the 200k a week mark.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Jonathan Walters? Paul Dickov?

Work rate takes you so far, skill and brainpower takes you further.
Work rate is vastly overrated in the British game.
Argentina seems to do ok without him, as will we.

No it isn't, its essential in our league & its what makes english sides do so well in europe Chelsea, Liverpool & the rags none had the most gifted side in the champs league when they won it but they all had a great work ethic.

That was great, but football has moved on. An end product is required and unfortunately, Carlos is too selfish. He looks like he runs about a lot as his positional sense isn't great.

Liken it to last ditch defenders- it looks great when they make that tackle, but then compare it to VK. He doesn't need to lunge in as he knows where to be.

Not last season he didn't. He was all over the fucking place & missed with plenty of lunges.

Defenders who don't make last ditch tackles aren't defenders. There has never been a top defender who didn't, just a load of utter mythical bullshit written about it.

And Bayern plus Dortmund got to the final of the Champions League because they out worked Real & Barca, not because they have better players.

If Pellegrini has a lot of attacking players in his team, they will have to work lie fuck or we will win nothing. Tevez would be ideal for our squad next season.

 

[berniethebusman]

Jonathan Walters? Paul Dickov?

Work rate takes you so far, skill and brainpower takes you further.
Work rate is vastly overrated in the British game.
Argentina seems to do ok without him, as will we.

No it isn't, its essential in our league & its what makes english sides do so well in europe Chelsea, Liverpool & the rags none had the most gifted side in the champs league when they won it but they all had a great work ethic.

That was great, but football has moved on. An end product is required and unfortunately, Carlos is too selfish. He looks like he runs about a lot as his positional sense isn't great.

Liken it to last ditch defenders- it looks great when they make that tackle, but then compare it to VK. He doesn't need to lunge in as he knows where to be.

Look at bayern and dortmund, think they'd have been so successfull without a good work ethic its needed more than ever now. Look at the transformation in Robben.
Im not saying thats all you need i loved Dickov id have had 10 of him in the team (at the time) but you'd never win anything major with 10 dickovs but you still need good players that are gonna graft.
I agree about Tevez being too selfish, i think Aguero is too, least unselfish is Dzeko and thats fucked up because he should be the most selfish of the lot. Tevez could do and has done Dzekos role twice as good.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No it isn't, its essential in our league & its what makes english sides do so well in europe Chelsea, Liverpool & the rags none had the most gifted side in the champs league when they won it but they all had a great work ethic.

That was great, but football has moved on. An end product is required and unfortunately, Carlos is too selfish. He looks like he runs about a lot as his positional sense isn't great.

Liken it to last ditch defenders- it looks great when they make that tackle, but then compare it to VK. He doesn't need to lunge in as he knows where to be.

Not last season he didn't. He was all over the fucking place & missed with plenty of lunges.

Defenders who don't make last ditch tackles aren't defenders. There has never been a top defender who didn't, just a load of utter mythical bullshit written about it.

And Bayern plus Dortmund got to the final of the Champions League because they out worked Real & Barca, not because they have better players.

If Pellegrini has a lot of attacking players in his team, they will have to work lie fuck or we will win nothing. Tevez would be ideal for our squad next season.

He isn't clinical enough. He shoots from everywhere.

Did we do better with him last year, or better the previous year, without him?

 

[Neville Kneville]

That was great, but football has moved on. An end product is required and unfortunately, Carlos is too selfish. He looks like he runs about a lot as his positional sense isn't great.

Liken it to last ditch defenders- it looks great when they make that tackle, but then compare it to VK. He doesn't need to lunge in as he knows where to be.

Not last season he didn't. He was all over the fucking place & missed with plenty of lunges.

Defenders who don't make last ditch tackles aren't defenders. There has never been a top defender who didn't, just a load of utter mythical bullshit written about it.

And Bayern plus Dortmund got to the final of the Champions League because they out worked Real & Barca, not because they have better players.

If Pellegrini has a lot of attacking players in his team, they will have to work lie fuck or we will win nothing. Tevez would be ideal for our squad next season.

He isn't clinical enough. He shoots from everywhere.

Did we do better with him last year, or better the previous year, without him?

Better the previous year, with him.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Not last season he didn't. He was all over the fucking place & missed with plenty of lunges.

Defenders who don't make last ditch tackles aren't defenders. There has never been a top defender who didn't, just a load of utter mythical bullshit written about it.

And Bayern plus Dortmund got to the final of the Champions League because they out worked Real & Barca, not because they have better players.

If Pellegrini has a lot of attacking players in his team, they will have to work lie fuck or we will win nothing. Tevez would be ideal for our squad next season.

He isn't clinical enough. He shoots from everywhere.

Did we do better with him last year, or better the previous year, without him?

Better the previous year, with him.

For 6 games?

Clutching at straws.

He can be a match winner, but too often is too selfish.

Get the supply right for Sergio and he will score a bucket full next year.

 

[dachoosen1]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

Agreed, aesthetically pleasing in the English league, will free up mega wages and possibly improve us after he's gone. Perfect.

 

[Neville Kneville]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

He is also the best allround player amongst our strikers & contributes twice as much to the overall play as Aguero & Dzeko as well as scoring plenty of goals.

He basically did the job Silva & Nasri failed to do last season.<br /><br />-- Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:02 am --<br /><br />

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

Agreed, aesthetically pleasing in the English league, will free up mega wages and possibly improve us after he's gone. Perfect.

How can you be agreeing with that ? You said workrate was bollocks a minute ago.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

He is also the best allround player amongst our strikers & contributes twice as much to the overall play as Aguero & Dzeko as well as scoring plenty of goals.

He basically did the job Silva & Nasri failed to do last season.

-- Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:02 am --

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

Agreed, aesthetically pleasing in the English league, will free up mega wages and possibly improve us after he's gone. Perfect.

How can you be agreeing with that ? You said workrate was bollocks a minute ago.

My viewpoint is that work rate is massively overrated in the English game. Tevez doesn't contribute enough to our moves. He isn't creative. He shoots from anywhere and has an awful shots to goal ratio.
He pleases the English fan as he runs about a lot and dives in trying to get the ball.
In our league, every charged down clearance gets a massive cheer.
Tevez doesn't have the end product to justify a place in our side.

Fernandino Barry(or other)

Navas Silva Isco

Aguero

 

[Daz_Blue]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

He is also the best allround player amongst our strikers & contributes twice as much to the overall play as Aguero & Dzeko as well as scoring plenty of goals.

He basically did the job Silva & Nasri failed to do last season.

-- Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:02 am --

Agreed, aesthetically pleasing in the English league, will free up mega wages and possibly improve us after he's gone. Perfect.

How can you be agreeing with that ? You said workrate was bollocks a minute ago.

My viewpoint is that work rate is massively overrated in the English game. Tevez doesn't contribute enough to our moves. He isn't creative. He shoots from anywhere and has an awful shots to goal ratio.
He pleases the English fan as he runs about a lot and dives in trying to get the ball.
In our league, every charged down clearance gets a massive cheer.
Tevez doesn't have the end product to justify a place in our side.

Fernandino Barry(or other)

Navas Silva Isco

Aguero

Yaya over Barry

 

[berniethebusman]

No he couldn't Tevez is the worse finisher of our forwards, his shots per goal is the highest. Bayern team is hardly full of work horses their squad is incredibly talented. Btw Barca is one of the hardest working team in the world, they simply make it look easy how hard everyone in that team works to win the ball back is amazing.

Work ethic dont have to be work horses, too many of ours go missing dzeko yaya nasri etc Totally agree on the Barca point.
As for tevez i disagree shots per goal doesnt do anything for me too many variables did he miss was it blocked/saved etc as far as i can see all our strikers have a similar shots on target record.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

He is also the best allround player amongst our strikers & contributes twice as much to the overall play as Aguero & Dzeko as well as scoring plenty of goals.

He basically did the job Silva & Nasri failed to do last season.

-- Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:02 am --



How can you be agreeing with that ? You said workrate was bollocks a minute ago.

My viewpoint is that work rate is massively overrated in the English game. Tevez doesn't contribute enough to our moves. He isn't creative. He shoots from anywhere and has an awful shots to goal ratio.
He pleases the English fan as he runs about a lot and dives in trying to get the ball.
In our league, every charged down clearance gets a massive cheer.
Tevez doesn't have the end product to justify a place in our side.

Fernandino Barry(or other)

Navas Silva Isco

Aguero

Yaya over Barry

My bad, forgot Yaya! Bedtime methinks!

 

[berniethebusman]

My bad, forgot Yaya! Bedtime methinks!

lol might join ya ;)

 

[Neville Kneville]

My viewpoint is that work rate is massively overrated in the English game. Tevez doesn't contribute enough to our moves. He isn't creative. He shoots from anywhere and has an awful shots to goal ratio.
He pleases the English fan as he runs about a lot and dives in trying to get the ball.
In our league, every charged down clearance gets a massive cheer.
Tevez doesn't have the end product to justify a place in our side.

Fernandino Barry(or other)

Navas Silva Isco

Aguero

Yaya over Barry

My bad, forgot Yaya! Bedtime methinks!

No end product from Tevez.

With the 2012/13 campaign now done and dusted, it’s time to reflect on the season as a whole from a statistical point of view in this week’s list…

Goals scored – Carlos Tevez

Taking the Community Shield out of the equation, Carlos Tevez scoops a second category win with 17 strikes in all competitions. Sergio Aguero grabbed 16, and Edin Dzeko completes City’s striking trio in third with 15 goals. However, it was the Bosnian frontman who came out on top in terms of league goals – all but one of his tally came in the Premier League.

Shots – Carlos Tevez

At the end of a fantastic season for his personal stats, Carlos has also recorded the most shots on goal in all competitions. His 101 shots is two ahead of Edin Dzeko’s total of 99, and the Argentinian also converted two more shots into goals than the number 10. Coincidence?!

Assists – David Silva, Carlos Tevez

With ten assists apiece, David Silva shares this award with the statistical man of the moment. Carlos set up both goals in the away victory at Arsenal in January, while Merlin’s assists proved vital in the home win over Chelsea.

Apps 107 Goals 58.

What an absolute pile of steaming, hairy, complete and utter, ill informed, clueless, bollocks you have been spouting.